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JD 3020 hydraulics

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Kevin

11-29-2001 17:36:17




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I have a 3020 with a JD 46 loader and sometimes I
will lose all hydraulics everything 3pt and loader hydraulics. Then if I shut the tractor off and leave it sit for a few hours I usaully gain my hdraulics again. If any body knows anything about this I would appreciate the help. Thanks




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Carl R.

12-02-2001 17:35:21




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 Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Kevin, 11-29-2001 17:36:17  
If you loose ALL hydraulics, including steering and brakes, the main hydraulic pump is most likely to blame. If you still have good steering and brakes, the priority valve under the dash could be the culprit.

If the hydraulics quit after using them for a while or they quit quickly after you puch in the clutch, you might have a return-to-sump leak. The most likely place this happens is under the rockshaft. Remove the plug on the back of the transmission case above and left of the serial number plate. Using a flashlight, look inside the hole toward the center of the tractor. Above the ring gear is a plate bolted to the bottom of the rockshaft housing. Have someone operate the loader while you look at the plate. If you see oil spurting out from under the plate when a function is used, there is the leak.

If the loader is using a separate valve, the return should be routed to a ported filter cover (T31170 and R66068). Also feel around on the tractor after it has been run for a while--if you find a box or component that is hot to the touch--you have found a potential internal high pressure leak, which heats the oil excessively.

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randy

12-01-2001 16:12:43




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 Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Kevin, 11-29-2001 17:36:17  
kevin from your explanation of the problem it sounds as if the stoke control valve in the hyd pump is sticking. it can be removed by taking out the pressure adjusting screw.it can be cleaned up with emery cloth.i hope this info is helpful



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MikeH

11-30-2001 17:13:09




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 Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Kevin, 11-29-2001 17:36:17  
Had a 4020 with the same problem,turned out to be the cheap John Deere Hyd. filter would let tiny particles through that would stick the stroke control valve,to fix it get a filter from some other manufacturer,don't buy a $10 filter,get a NAPA or Fleetguard or the like



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Dan

11-29-2001 18:27:54




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 Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Kevin, 11-29-2001 17:36:17  
A couple things to check. Ck hydraulic filter to see if it is dirty, how is loader plumbed? If it has separate control valves for loader it should have the pressure line running into a T on the pressure line from the pump to the back of the tractor, the return goes to the filter cover (with an inlet in it, available through JD). Other thing is if you hold youf foot on the clutch for too long the transmission pump quits working and then the front pump starves for oil. That could be a problem. Pump could be worn also, might check preessure at remotes to see.

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Johnny

11-29-2001 18:23:36




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 Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Kevin, 11-29-2001 17:36:17  
Hi Kevin:

Well, let's see. Start out by changing the hydraulic filters and oil, almost sound like it looses oil. Check for leaks and the proper amount of fluid. Is the tractor a syncro-range or powershift? Not too sure what to tell you, just trying to help. Does the old fluid look burned? Also, those loaders aren't extremely strong since they run off of the tractors hydraulics. My boss has a 3020 with a 46 loader, when it's time to lift heavy round bales; 1 person is running the tractor and moving the valve while the other is pushing up on the round bale to get the loader raised into position. One strong loader on the market is a Bush Hog, a friend has one and it will lift anything, much better than those old JD's but they will cost a lot more. Hope this helps

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Thurlow

11-30-2001 09:11:15




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 Re: Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Johnny, 11-29-2001 18:23:36  
Have had two 46A (don't know if that's the same as a 46) JD loaders mounted on 4020s for 30+ years.
Will pick up any round bale ever baled. Also load 14 ft x 24 inch red oak logs (carefully). They were offered with 2 different sized cylinders....mine have the larger ones.



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G Taylor ............pushing up on the bale by hand!!!

11-30-2001 07:24:20




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 Re: Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Johnny, 11-29-2001 18:23:36  
Hmmmmm ..... ... standing infront of a loader tractor lifting on a 500 to 1500lb bale, tractor likely in gear with the operators muddy boot on the clutch, raising a under sized loader past it's breakout capacity, shuddering hydraulic lines & cylinders at max system pressure, hydraulic system with known problems, engine noise limiting communications.....etc. Anyone wonder why or how people get maimed or killed in "accidents"?

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G Taylor

11-30-2001 07:17:02




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 Re: Re: JD 3020 hydraulics in reply to Johnny, 11-29-2001 18:23:36  
The 46 was a weenie little loader intended for 1020,1120 & 2120 utility tractors. Although it would bolt to a 3020,4020 it's not recommended. A model 48 loader is a better match for the 3020.



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