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Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start?

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Mike Norton

11-12-2001 08:09:48




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A farmer friend of mine says not to buy a 3010 gas because it will be hard to start. Says I am going to have to jump it all the time and even pull it on occassion to get it to start. He has never seen the tractor I'm looking at. Just says all 3010 & 3020 are like this. I think he only likes deisel but I don't know anything about tractors so thought I would ask someone who uses them for a living. I'm looking to use this tractor for mowing and clearing out some timber, not for field work. Thanks for any help.

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Dixie Johnny

11-14-2001 14:18:13




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
I have a 3010 gasser that has been problems for several years when cranking. I had the same opinion as your friend. I tuned it up and that still did not help. Finally I replace the carb with a Zenith replica and bingo that solved the problem. The tractor is still cold natured and must be choked heavily until the engine warms up but my 3010 will crank now on every try.



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phil

11-12-2001 16:50:20




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
Our family has 3 of them in Iowa, they all start about the same. They all need a lot of choking, 100% choke until they start. The throttle must be in the idle position, this makes it tricky to keep them going during a cold start. When they are fully warmed up, they must still be choked for a restart, even if the shut-down is only 5 minutes. But they always start, even in below zero temps.



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KWB

11-12-2001 16:44:59




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
My neighbor has a 3010 gas. When he bought it about 10 years ago it was hard to start. He went through the ignition and the carb, still the same. He then found that a safety switch (in the gearshift? I can't remember exactly), was corroded and giving a lot of voltage drop. After fixing that the tractor starts every time easily even when cold. I sure wouldn't mind having one just like it.



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john

11-12-2001 14:44:51




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
I have a 3020 gas that I use for feeding round bales in the winter it gets started every day and never gets pluged in. I live in northern michigan and I cant remember the last time I had to jump it.



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Bob Smith

11-12-2001 14:26:28




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
Have to agree with everyone about keeping it in proper tune! and electronic ignition is the way to go!
We always had a 3020 gasser around for the feed mixer because it was easier to start than the diesel's in the cold weather.
I think for the type of service you will use it for the 3020 is a good choice for you.
And they do tend to hold there value very well also if one day you decide to trade in or up.
Bob Smith

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JD70Jim

11-12-2001 12:29:27




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
There is a 1967 gas 3020 parked outside, which starts easily down to single digit temperatures, and if the coolant heater is plugged in it starts easily well down into below zero temperatures (assuming I wanted to start it when it's that cold) Of course, if you let one get out of tune, don't maintain it etc, you could get to where ther would be problems.

In my opinion, the only real drawback to a gas 3020 is the amount of fuel it can consume, but the $2-3000 premium for a diesel engined 3020 would buy a LOT of gas, if the tractor was used for light duty, and was used infrequently. They are really nice tractors (it's why they cost so much).

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Mark A

11-12-2001 11:02:07




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
My 3020 gas starts fairly easy, using a full choke even on a 100 degree day. It is cold natured, requiring partial choke even on the before mentioned 100 degree day, until the engine is up to temperature. But no problems starting. Just make sure everything is tuned up, and the carb is adjusted properly. The intake manifold has "warmup crossover blocks", which are at the connection between the intake and exhaust manifolds, that can be reversed to aid fuel atomization in either hot or cold climates. They are either installed to open up the heat, or are blocked off, as it is on mine. That, I am sure, is why my tractor is cold natured, even here in south central Texas. Diesels do not need as much tuning to keep running properly, which is perhaps why he is steering you away from this tractor. Does your friend have proof that these tractors all start hard, or is he just blowing smoke? For what you are intending, I think this would be a good tractor for you. Are you buying this tractor near your home? Because I think you would need to reverse the crossover blocks I talked about earlier, if you, for example, lived in Alaska and was buying a tractor from Florida or Texas. Just my 2 cents worth. (or judging by the length of my post, $38 dollars and 56 cents.)

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G Taylor

11-12-2001 08:50:44




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 Re: Is it true 3010's 3020's Gas are hard to start? in reply to Mike Norton, 11-12-2001 08:09:48  
If the carb, ignition & electrical system are in good working order the gaser will out start the diesel & be superior for just puttering around. A brand new Zenith carb, properly adjusted & an electronic ignition replacement of the points are a good idea. Put a premium quality new 195F coolant thermostat in it too. Without proper service no brand or model of anything will work satisfactorily.

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