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Al

11-02-2001 06:29:26




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does anyone know of a way to clean rust out of a gas tank. We really dont want to have to buy a new one since the tank is welded to the pony motor access door.




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rynounc99

11-02-2001 21:34:02




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 Re: pony gas tank in reply to Al, 11-02-2001 06:29:26  
Are you restoring an old 720? Just wondering, I wanted to have some sort of idea what type of effort it would take to restore one.



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Al

11-04-2001 20:09:42




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 Re: Re: pony gas tank in reply to rynounc99, 11-02-2001 21:34:02  
we have a '56 720D. we're really not restoring but just trying to get most of the stuff to work correctly such as the pony motor.



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Fred-ct

11-02-2001 19:52:24




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 Re: pony gas tank in reply to Al, 11-02-2001 06:29:26  
I had good luck with oven cleaner - it disolved most of the old caked on residue in my tank.

Good luck!!



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Frank-in-Tallahassee

11-02-2001 11:46:54




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 Re: pony gas tank in reply to Al, 11-02-2001 06:29:26  
Al:

Here is my post to someone who had thought of using muriatic acid to clean a tank. I used the MEK/Pressure washer technique, followed by Metal prep/pressure washer on my pony tank, and it can out great !

Frank-in-Tallahassee

Couple of things you don't want to do:

1)Disolve any plating (like zinc) from the inside of the tank

2)Make a near rust through hole a real hole.

3) Use acid so strong that you generate a significant volume of hydrogen gas...

That's why I am not a fan of muriatic acid (a comon blend of Hydrchloric and Sulfuric acids) except to clean masonry.

Lately I have been doing the following:

If I think it's just old organic sludge in the tank, like boiled off gasoline, then like the fellas say, use acetone, or MEK. MEK will do the job, but be sure to use it in a well ventilated area....yadda, yadda....you know the drill.

If you then see any visible rust in the tank, go to the discount auto parts store, and buy some metal treating stuff. It's kind of greenish, and it is now sold by them to treat (convert) free rust into the black iron phosphate. Now this stuff is dilute phosphoric acid, but remember, not all acids are alike. This stuff will eat metal, but at it's low strength, about all you will get is a good etch. It WILL turn the old rust black, and that rust patch will then be chemically inert. The tank must be oil free do the acid can get to the metal, so I like to wash the inside of the tank with hot soapy water, or purple cleaner to remove the oily residue from the MEK and slop. Then, if the tank is reallly rusty, throw a short length of chain in there as you slosh the phosphoric acid around. Be sure to wear protective clothing and eye protection, etc. (It will bite you nose !).

Now, rinse the tank with hot water, or even better, blast it with a power washer. Though they say it will dry to a sandable, primable finish, I like to remove it. If you do this, it will shine, and you won't have to worry that you removed too much base metal.

After you wash it, slosh some clean MEK in it, and most of the water will pool out the drain. If you are not going to install it for sometime, slosh some diesel fuel it in to oil the fresh metal surfaces because the MEK will have stripped all oil from the metal pores.

BTW: I treat my freshly sandblasted parts with this "Phosphatizing" acid, then power wash, dry, and prime. The acid kills any rust I missed, and disolves any remnants of silica from the sand exploding against the metal.

Frank Boerger

70D // 855

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Jerry S

11-02-2001 09:31:40




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 Re: pony gas tank in reply to Al, 11-02-2001 06:29:26  
The guy in town who does fuel tanks told me to go out in the driveway and select a handful of the most appropriate looking rocks I could find and pitch them in then shake the tank around. Not sure if you can shake your tank around or not but with a removable tank it worked great. Went to the car wash afterward for high pressure soap and rinse then used gas tank sealer after the tank dried completely. Hope this helps you.

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