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Backward polarity on my M

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Darrell

10-25-2001 06:43:01




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When I bought my M, I knew it was a 6 volt system. Then I learned it was positive ground. I've had the tractor for 2 months now using it almost daily.Yesterday I was looking at the wiring
when I noticed that the battery was hooked up with a negative ground. Now I am "CONFUSED". It is definately 6 volt. I changed the polarity and it apparently is working OK. Has the backwards polarity hurt anything in my wiring? What should I watch for? How did the tractor crank with the opposite polarity? Thanks

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Steamer

10-31-2001 11:30:43




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 Re: backward polarity on my M in reply to Darrell, 10-25-2001 06:43:01  
Hi,

Well, there is an issue with metal migration between the contacts on the points, if you have NOS points, that is. I have newer carbon faced points in all my older machines, and they don't care about battery polarity.

The other thing is the way a coil is wound. These are what's known as 'autotransformers' which have nothing to do with automobiles, despite the name.:-) That means that the primary (6v) coil windings are shared with the secondary (high voltage) ones.

The way it's wound, the negative side would be at the one end of the coil and attached to a lug, while the positive side tap (which is further up the coil) is attached to the case. The high voltage connection is attached to the other end of the coil.

Now this doesn't mean a whole lot, but by reversing the battery you now have less effective turns of wire in the secondary. That will lead to a reduction in spark voltage and you might run into plug fouling or other such problems.

I wish I could draw a diagram, as the text description really doesn't make this very clear. Of course, there were also negative ground 6v coils in the world, so it's possible that the original modifier swapped the coil out and all this would then be meaningless.

Stan

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Handsome Jim

10-26-2001 17:32:20




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 Re: backward polarity on my M in reply to Darrell, 10-25-2001 06:43:01  
When I was sixteen or seventeen I 'misinstalled' a new battery on dad's 50 and ran it for a couple of hours. The only damage we ever noticed was the voltage regulator had to be replaced. HJ



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John T

10-25-2001 07:14:34




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 Re: backward polarity on my M in reply to Darrell, 10-25-2001 06:43:01  
Darrell, yes it came from the factory as pos grnd. The reason they (starter) crank the same even if reversed polarity, is that the physical orientation/winding of the fields versus armature is still the same. You probably havent hurt anything serious, you may want to insure the coil is wired with the negative getting power from the battery via ignition switch and the positive going to the distributors points. If it had an ammeter, it would have read backwards unless someone changed it over. I would re polarize the generator. Let us know how she does, but I dont expect any problems. Ol John T

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