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F14

10-09-2001 06:12:47




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Stopped and looked at a tractor sitting along the road.

Late Styled JD A. Can't read serial number, but has stamped frame rails and battery under seat, which I believe makes it '49 or later. Power-trol, wide front, metal half tracks. Tracks and bogies in good shape, no bends, no welds. Wide front in good shape, 90% tires on front. Sheet metal is straight, less the usual butchering around the muffler. Rear tires hold air, but thats about all that can be said about them. Didn't hear it run, but no major leaks, fairly thorough inspection found no cracks.

Sign says $2500. Pending hearing it run, seems like a good starting price.

Question: Is there a way to check for a loose flywheel with an electric start machine where the flywheel is covered, short of taking my tools and popping the cover off?

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F14...RATS!

10-10-2001 08:23:29




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 Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to F14, 10-09-2001 06:12:47  
Went back to get a couple pictures of the half-track assemblies, and it was gone. Guess it ran as good as it looked...



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burns

10-09-2001 19:16:58




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 Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to F14, 10-09-2001 06:12:47  
The easiest way to check for a loose flywheel is to check the end play on the crankshaft. Engage the clutch and work the clutch arm back and forth (don't disengage the clutch...just enough to put pressure on the crank assembly). There should be about 10 thous. Look at the clutch moving side to side for a rough guess.

Your not going to paint it Farmall Red????



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F14

10-10-2001 03:04:14




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 Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to burns, 10-09-2001 19:16:58  
I'm just a bit confused. Am I looking for movement in the clutch arm or in the clutch drum/belt pulley assembly? Last "A" I looked at was old enough to have an exposed flywheel, which I could grab and move in and out about 1/8" or so, which is one reason I passed on it.



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F14...Nah...

10-10-2001 02:57:35




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 Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to burns, 10-09-2001 19:16:58  
I'm bitractoral. It'd look good sitting in the shed next to my little JD 750...



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F14....Of course,

10-10-2001 03:00:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to F14...Nah..., 10-10-2001 02:57:35  
I'd have to find another Farmall to even up the score. A Super M might work...



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burns

10-10-2001 03:28:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to F14....Of course, , 10-10-2001 03:00:40  
Ya know I have been trying to explain the same rational to the little lady for some time but she hasn't been infected with the tractor illness.


By working the clutch arm back and forth while the clutch is engaged puts pressure on the clutch dog & pins. This will cause the whole rotating system of flywheel, crank, and clutch/pulley system to move back and forth. While we must have standards before we buy a tractor, I am not so sure that I would be overly concerned about the flywheel endplay as being a one of them. Unless, it is excessive (you add the definition of excessive) Good luck

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John Henry

10-09-2001 15:35:19




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 Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to F14, 10-09-2001 06:12:47  
My curiosity is idling too. A John Deere A with Half tracks? I have seen aftermarket add ons on some Fords in the past but have never seen a two cylinder ag tractor with them. Not that it cant be done of course. But now I`m curious to. Do these tracks look like a factory John Deere product or something added on later?



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F14

10-10-2001 02:59:20




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 Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to John Henry, 10-09-2001 15:35:19  
I'm guessing aftermarket, but they're VERY nicely done. Well designed and built. I gotta go by there later this morning, if it's still there I'll try to grab a picture.



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MIKE HANLEY

10-10-2001 01:59:28




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 Re: Re: Idle Curiosity in reply to John Henry, 10-09-2001 15:35:19  
AROS CO. MADE HALF TRACKS THAT WOULD FIT ANY TRACTOR. THE ONLY THING WAS DIFFERANT AXLE MOUNTINGS FOR THE BOGIES AND HOW LONG THE THE TRACKS WHERE TO FIT THE BIGGER DIAMITER TIRES.

WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE BACK IN THE 60'S I WORKED ON A RANCH THAT HAD SOME SWAMP GROUND. THE RANCH HAD ARPS HALF TRACKS ON A FORD 860 THAT PULLED A 4 14" BOTTOM PLOW THEY ALSO HAD ARPS HALF TRACKS ON A OLIVER 880 DIESE THAT PULLED 4 16" PLOW.

I WAS THERE ABOUT A MONTH WHEN THE FORD WAS TRADED FOR A JOHN DEERE 730D AND 4 16 3 PT PLOW. THE 880 AND THE 730 WERE THE SAME HORSEPOWER BUT IN THE FIELD SIDE BY SIDE THE 880 COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE 730D. THE RANCH ALSO HAD A 420 CRAWLER WITH A LOADER. J.D.'S HEREFORD CATTLE AND GOOD HORSES I WAS IN HEAVEN. WHEN FALL CAME I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CLASS ROOM.

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