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Differential bearing quill shimming...

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chris in WI

09-28-2001 16:00:42




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Need some help from those of you in the know.

I've re-installed my differential (1946 A") and I played with the bearing tolerances until I got what I felt was right. The I&T manual calls for a specific amount of play, but I can't see how you could possibly measure this. (?)

As it is now, a good hand spinning of the differential will get you about two revolutions of the diff. gear; it does not spin entirely freely. There's a little bit of resistance, but the weight of the gears overcomes it to the point that it's almost impossible to notice unless you've spun the gear without any resistance at all.

When I take away one thin shim, it binds and is quite difficult to turn. when I add one thin shim, the shaft spins freely with no resistance at all. Have I got it properly adjusted? I figure once the whole tractor gets warm it'll loosen up a bit anyway.

Any help appreciated-


chris

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Clooney

09-28-2001 16:45:56




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 Re: differential bearing quill shimming... in reply to chris in WI, 09-28-2001 16:00:42  
Chris, you didn't say if you installed new bearings or used the old ones. For new bearings you are about right, for used bearings you probably will be ok but it wouldn't hurt to add about .001"-.002" to the shim stack. That won't be possible with a single shim so you might have to leave it where it's at. If you are using a stack of shims you might try to put a little gasket sealer between each shim as that will make sure it won't seep oil & will add a very slight amount of thickness to the stack. I have set those pretty tight on new bearings without any problems as they gain end play with break in. Even on used bearings you shouldn't have a durability problem but tight bearings tend to corrode easier if they sit for extended periods because they don't allow a good oil layer to remain between the roller bearing & cup while sitting. If you didn't use the same bearing with the same cup that came out it will loosen slightly with use also.

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chris in WI

09-29-2001 08:02:58




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 Re: Re: differential bearing quill shimming... in reply to Clooney, 09-28-2001 16:45:56  
Clooney-

I did indeed use the same bearings that came out of the old tractor. They were in such good shape I couldn't bear to replace them. So I can't count on any break in there, nor can I add gasket sealer, since I already did that (but I think I just mashed the gaskets down more instead of adding to the shimming).

As for putting a used cup with a used bearing (not originally paired) isn't that a big no-no? I guess I've always been scared to do that after seeing how old bearings seat into themselves in such unique ways... If you've had good results doing this, I'd like to know. Probably save me some money down the line.

I guess I'll probably leave it as is after all...

Thanks for the help-


Chris

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Clooney

09-29-2001 09:36:38




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 Re: Re: Re: differential bearing quill shimming... in reply to chris in WI, 09-29-2001 08:02:58  
Chris, it's not a good idea to mix used bearings & cups but sometimes you have to due to the lack of availability of new bearings or the correct cups with snap ring grooves. The good thing about J.D. 2 cyls is that most bearings & shafts turn slowly & are oversized for their task.



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