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Fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid?

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Mark

08-27-2001 10:15:22




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I am restoring a 1952 B that was an all-fuel version. The old 2 gl gasoline tank still had about half a tank in it when I removed it, needless to say it has about a half inch thick coating of gunk all over it. I heard muratic acid works well to clean that out. Is this true? or what is better besides those expensive kits?
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Mark

08-28-2001 05:54:00




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 Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Mark, 08-27-2001 10:15:22  
Thanks for all your help! We own a True Value hardware store, and I'm going to start stocking MEK now. Thanks again!



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Ben.So.Tex

08-27-2001 17:44:49




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 Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Mark, 08-27-2001 10:15:22  
Mark I just finished a jd B that had varnish in the tank a couple of months ago. I used acetone, got it at the local ace hardware store, it worked GREAT. BUT be careful it has some strong fumes, and is extremely Flamable,Good Luck,



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Frank Boerger

08-27-2001 13:48:41




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 Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Mark, 08-27-2001 10:15:22  
Mark:

Couple of things you don't want to do:

1)Disolve any plating (like zinc) from the inside of the tank

2)Make a near rust through hole a real hole.

3) Use acid so strong that you generate a significant volume of hydrogen gas...

That's why I am not a fan of muriatic acid (a comon blend of Hydrchloric and Sulfuric acids) except to clean masonry.

Lately I have been doing the following:

If I think it's just old organic sludge in the tank, like boiled off gasoline, then like the fellas say, use acetone, or MEK. MEK will do the job, but be sure to use it in a well ventilated area....yadda, yadda....you know the drill.

If you then see any visible rust in the tank, go to the discount auto parts store, and buy some metal treating stuff. It's kind of greenish, and it is now sold by them to treat (convert) free rust into the black iron phosphate. Now this stuff is dilute phosphoric acid, but remember, not all acids are alike. This stuff will eat metal, but at it's low strength, about all you will get is a good etch. It WILL turn the old rust black, and that rust patch will then be chemically inert. The tank must be oil free do the acid can get to the metal, so I like to wash the inside of the tank with hot soapy water, or purple cleaner to remove the oily residue from the MEK and slop. Then, if the tank is reallly rusty, throw a short length of chain in there as you slosh the phosphoric acid around. Be sure to wear protective clothing and eye protection, etc. (It will bite you nose !).

Now, rinse the tank with hot water, or even better, blast it with a power washer. Though they say it will dry to a sandable, primable finish, I like to remove it. If you do this, it will shine, and you won't have to worry that you removed too much base metal.

After you wash it, slosh some clean MEK in it, and most of the water will pool out the drain. If you are not going to install it for sometime, slosh some diesel fuel it in to oil the fresh metal surfaces because the MEK will have stripped all oil from the metal pores.

BTW: I treat my freshly sandblasted parts with this "Phosphatizing" acid, then power wash, dry, and prime. The acid kills any rust I missed, and disolves any remnants of silica from the sand exploding against the metal.

Frank Boerger

70D // 855

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Brand Name?

08-27-2001 16:25:38




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 Re: Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Frank Boerger, 08-27-2001 13:48:41  
Frank, This sounds like a good method. Do you remember the brand name of the greenish metal treatment stuff? Is it normally with the automotive paints?



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RB/CT

08-27-2001 18:45:35




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 Re: Re: Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Brand Name?, 08-27-2001 16:25:38  
To Brand Name/ Around here its called Metal Prep, and wear rubber gloves and safety glasses.



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Frank Boerger

08-28-2001 05:13:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to RB/CT, 08-27-2001 18:45:35  
Yes, I have bought it at car shows under the name of Metal Prep, but I THINK (I�m 1,000 mi. away from the bottle), it�s called �Rusted Metal Treatment� available in quarts & gallons. It�s a slimy, greenish liquid, and by all means �Use appropriate safety equipment !� (I found it on the shelf under the parts counter where they keep the purple alkali cleaner).

Frank-in-Tallahassee (Ottawa, Ontario right now)
70D // 855

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MEK MEK MEK MEK

08-27-2001 12:45:53




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 Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Mark, 08-27-2001 10:15:22  
MEK is what you need.



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Ralph

08-27-2001 11:02:28




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 Re: fuel tank cleaner -Muratic acid? in reply to Mark, 08-27-2001 10:15:22  
Muriatic acid is good at dissolving rust, but I'm not sure it would do much on varnish. I think those tanks had some zinc plating and muriatic acid (hydrochloric acid) is even better at removing that than it is on removing rust. I would try acetone or MEK from the paint store.



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