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Mike in michiga

08-01-2001 15:07:55

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I have a 44A that is giving me fits I cant get the gov. adjusted . The top speed is to low but the throttle is on the stop. Is there a secret to legnth of the rod from the throttle lever to the gov? Or do the springs go bad I saw one at a show last Sat. that had 2 springs. I have had the gov. house apart and every thing seems ok in there.I am at a loss.

Thank you Mike

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Buckeye al

08-02-2001 16:07:53

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Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to Mike in michigan, 08-01-2001 15:07:55

1. Do is as Clooney says, make sure there is nothing binding on the throttle rod between the governor arm & the carb. Also make sure that the governor spring (the flat leaf) makes contact with the point on the governor lever arm. If not, remove the spring & clean out all rust between the spring and the lever. If it still won't contact the point, you might have to replace the spring but we'll know for sure later. (The eye goes back.)
2. Remove the throttle rod from the carburetor.
3. Set throttle lever to full throttle position. 4. Hold the carburetor in the wide open position. 5. Adjust the length of the throttle rod so that it is 1/2 the diameter of the rod too short to simply drop into the hole. Said another way, you have to pull the rod (against the spring tension) forward half the diameter of the rod in order to drop the rod into the hole in the carburetor. Usually if you go much more than a half diameter too short, they get close to runaway.

Now start it up & check your speeds. IF it still won't run up to speed, you can shorten the rod between the governor spring and the throttle lever. If that's already as short as it will go, then replace the spring. The strength of the spring is the only thing that counters the weights of the governor and therefore the only thing that can or will increase speed once the linkages are set correctly. The weights slow it down, the spring speeds it up. If speed is OK when you're done with all this but it is reluctant to slow down when you pull back on the throttle lever, lengthen the throttle rod a turn or two. How much depends upon the wear of the weight arms, pivots, & overall condition of the governor. Too short & it will run away. Too long & he's sluggish or slow to respond to a load.

Good luck & let us know how it works out.

Later.

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mike in michigan

08-09-2001 10:05:03

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Re: Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to Buckeye al, 08-02-2001 16:07:53

Thanks guys I ordered a new "speed control spring" today wont see it till next week

Mikey G

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Clooney

08-01-2001 17:24:30

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Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to Mike in michigan, 08-01-2001 15:07:55

Mike, can you get wide open throttle by moving the governor arm on top of the governor all the way forward? Can you get wide open throttle with the engine not running & the hand lever all the way forward? If not you have a linkage problem (make sure the throttle linkage doesn't hit & hang up on the top of the carb where it goes through the hole on the throttle lever, you might need several little washers to raise the rod to clear the carb top). Have you adjusted the throttle stop screw to allow the hand lever to go farther forward? There probably is a given length for the rear rod but I don't have it handy & it probably won't help anyhow because of all the worn pivot points. I would lengthen it a little at a time & see if the top RPM improves & you can still get it to return to idle. A worn or weak spring will make it run faster not slower as the spring tries to keep the governor from making it go faster.

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mike from michigan

08-02-2001 10:32:47

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Re: Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to Clooney, 08-01-2001 17:24:30

Yes i can get full open with engine off.And I have the stop bolt all the way out.to allow larger motion of the throttle lever. Thanks

Mike AKA Mikey Gs

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Don

08-02-2001 11:41:28

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Re: Re: Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to mike from michigan, 08-02-2001 10:32:47

Didn't think I would disagree with Clooney but I have to this time . As the tension goes out of the spring the gov. wts. can overcome it easier so the engine slows down. You need a new spring. I have replaced many of these over the years for this problem. When a tractor was overhauled the spring was part of it,just like the rod bearings.Sorry to disagree with you Clooney, now I'm are talking about the flat governer spring . Don

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Clooney

08-02-2001 15:43:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 44 A governer problem in reply to Don , 08-02-2001 11:41:28

Don, you are correct. I have been working on a different engine governor set-up lately & didn't give the proper thought to my posting. Thanks for correcting me as I don't want the wrong information going out to people.....Clooney

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