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JD720D Fuel System

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Guy

04-11-2001 09:21:09




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I have two questions.

First, Are there any likely places to look for diesel leaking into the crankase while it is parked with the fuel on.

Second, How does the pressure regulator (I think that's what it is) in the primary fuel pump work?

My story:

I always wanted a large 2 cylinder JD since I was in high school listening to my neigbbor plowing with his new 830. Last fall I bought a reasonable 720D pony start, changed the fluids that had water in them from sitting outside, and parked it inside for the winter.

When it fianlly got somewhat warm I went to start it and it looked like the engine oil was high and the fuel was lower than last fall, but the oil did not smell like diesel. Moved it a few feet and shut it off, and turned fuel off.

Last Saturday, I found the oil higher and thinner, and the fuel lower. Went to start it to move it to where I would change the oil, forgetting to turn fuel on.

It fired a few times and quit. Remembered fuel.

Turned fuel on, but it would not start.

Disconnected pipe where it goes into engine and got some flow with engine not running, so filters (which I have not changed yet) not completely plugged.

Still no start, so I cranked with the line disconnected at the engine expecting more flow from the primary pump, but there was no extra pressure.

Removed primary pump, noticed fuel weep hole in bottom, so I can probably rule out the privmary pump shaft seal as source of leakage into engine.

I used a drill to spin primary pump, made a mess, and confirmed that it did not pump.

So removed the gear cover and noticed that the presure regulator ball seat was at the top of the hole slightly rubbing on the gears.

When I disassembled further I saw that the output was below the reg ball as was a hole from the supply to the output. And, the reg. ball seat, kind of a cup, moves freely in the hole with maybe .015 clearance.

It looks like the ball and seat should be below the output so it functions as a pressure regulator but I can see nothing to keep it there. I thought maybe the flow should compress the spring and push it down (which would allow straight through flow to prime with the engine off, a neat idea) but I think the clearance is too much to build pressure.

Anyway, since it didn't run the way it was, I used solder (easy to remove) to increase the OD of the seat to where it would stay at the bottom of the hole.

Put it back together, it now pumps fuel, and IT RUNS.

I should also add that I had the injector pump cover off, and bled any air out of the fuel rail, so maybe that's what really fixed it.

Can anyone think of a better way to spend a Saturday afternoon!!!

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K Baker

04-11-2001 15:38:53




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 Re: JD720D Fuel System in reply to Guy, 04-11-2001 09:21:09  
I own two 720 deisels, wonderful tractors. I would strongly suggest you get an owners manual and a service manual would be a good idea. It has been too long since I had a primary pump apart for me to remember, but I think you want the ball to be able to move in the hole. If you cannot start the tractor after shutting it down for a while with the fuel switch off, most likely the injection pumps are leaking and need to be rebuilt. Possibly there might be a loose line somewhere. There is a bleed port on the left side of the engine just below the rack cover. Bleed it there and it should start. If the injection pumps are leaking its almost a sure bet it's time to do the injectors too. Sorry, but thats the way they usually are when you get them. Anyway, my main point here is that a 720 deisel is NOT a D and you can't hope to operate it successfully without at least an owners manual. KB

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billde

05-16-2006 04:53:06




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 Re: '40 B oils in reply to van robinson, 05-15-2006 22:36:04  
There is a chance of foaming when detergent oil is used in hyd systems. Use either non det motor oil or hyd oil in the lift system. I use 15-40 in the engines of my old JD's.



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machinery-man

05-16-2006 04:45:11




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 Re: 520 jd rebuild in reply to champ01h, 05-15-2006 21:21:32  
I always put the end gap for the oil rings on top and I alway set the rods where the oil spray is towards the inside of the cylinder.



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