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Differences in Model 40 Industrials?

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Brandon

04-03-2001 20:04:58




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I still haven't been able to find out any differences from a industrial 40 and an agricultural version. Can anybody help?

Are the industrials based on the Utility or Standard? Do they have heavier front axles, etc? Any info on crawler versions would be great too.


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Brandon

P.S. I have heard that the industrial 420, was based on the Utility. It was called the "Special Utility". Has anyone else heard of this? Could it apply to the 40?

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The Stranger

04-03-2001 20:28:21




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 Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to Brandon, 04-03-2001 20:04:58  
The reason you haven't been able to find out anything about the Model 40 Industrial tractors is because there weren't any such critters. As Deere began to enter the light industrial market, it promoted the 40 Utility and 40 Crawler as "industrial" tractors, but the only difference between these tractors and their ag counterparts was a paint job----there were no heavy-duty parts or other changes. There were some options that would tailor a 40U or 40C to be better suited for industrial service, such as grill guards, etc.

The 420I "special utility" was basically a 420W with a fixed-tread front axle, and heavy-duty steering arms. Most of these tractors were painted Industrial Yellow, but some wore the regular green and yellow paint scheme.

The first Dubuque-built tractors that were designed for strictly industrial service were the 440 series tractors, introduced in early 1958. Options to better tailor the 420 and 430 Utility and Crawler tractors to industrial use continued to be offered, but as with their model 40 predecessors, they were mechanically identical to the ag versions----again, only the Industrial Yellow paint job distinquished them.

Hope this helps

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Brandon

04-03-2001 21:03:56




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 Re: Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to The Stranger, 04-03-2001 20:28:21  
Thanks!

Sometimes I forget that the only change Deere made was to slap some industrial yellow paint on them.

About the 420 "Special Utility". A guy emailed me and said, "....The 420 Special Utility (Industrial) has a long rear axle, heavier square front axle and sits higher that the 420U. There were only less than about a thousand of the Special Utility tractors built."

Does this sound right for the modified 420W?

Anyway, thanks for answering the "40" question so fast.

Brandon

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The Stranger

04-03-2001 21:20:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to Brandon, 04-03-2001 21:03:56  
The 420W and 420I tractors used the same front axle---the tie rods on the 420I were not adjustable, but all other parts with the exception of the steering arms are the same.

Rear axles were identical as well---there were both "short" and "long" axles available for both the 420W and 420I tractors.

There were 166 of the "phase II" (1957) 420I's built, and 89 of the "phase III" (1958) 420I's. The 420I was canceled when the 440 series tractors were introduced.

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Brandon

04-04-2001 14:11:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to The Stranger, 04-03-2001 21:20:56  
Thanks for the great info!

I'm trying not to be annoying, but...I can't help myself.

You mentioned 420 Phase II and III, but what about I (one)? Would these be the yellow Utilities?

And, I was looking in my cheap serial number book. It listed a "Model 40 Spec." for the year of 1955. Could this be a Special Utility? I just wanted to point this out.


Thanks again for helping a dummy,
Brandon

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BMeyer

04-04-2001 15:51:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to Brandon, 04-04-2001 14:11:59  
The 40 special, or also known as 40V, is a semi-highcrop. Only 329 were made, and have a clearance of 26". You can view a picture of both at the link below.



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Brandon

04-05-2001 20:30:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Differences in Model 40 Industrials? in reply to BMeyer, 04-04-2001 15:51:28  
Thanks everybody!



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