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John Z.

02-14-2001 09:33:22




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Just lost a fully restored 1955 JD60 and a 1962 JD4010 puller in a garage fire. Does anybody have any experience or advice on rebuilding them? Too much time, $$$$, and sweat spent not to consider giving them a 2nd chance. Thanks, John




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Donny-B

02-16-2001 18:37:57




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
If the tractor was in a fire for a short amount of time it may be ok to rebuild but intense heat will burn the carbon out of the metal making it soft and weak.



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Dave Kolby

02-16-2001 13:03:34




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
I used to work with volunteers restoring full size steam locomotives. Had one in a roundhouse fire once and could not salvage anything. Thats a pretty big hunk of metal and is built to stand internal heat. What happens is the fire takes the temper out of the steel frame and a lot of the rest of it so it is often not salvegable, even if it looks okay.

Dave



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G Taylor worst yet was the B-29 fire

02-15-2001 20:18:36




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
Worst fire I've seen & heard of was the B-29 on the Greenland glacier about years ago. It was crash landed in 47 then a ambitous character got a group of fellows together & almost rebuilt it one summer. One man sickened & later died after being emergency airlifted out. The next summer they had a larger crew & had the B-29 air ready. When taxiing over rough surfaces the jury rigged generator hurriedly set in the cargo bay tipped over & burned everything. They bailed out & video taped it melting down. Everything left sunk to the bottom lake they were on the following summer. Another reason why a half-assed patched together temporary fix it job bothers me. One short cut to save five minutes will ruin months or years of work.

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RayP

02-15-2001 13:13:11




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
Father-in-law lost a Farmall BN in a barn fire a while back - although it looked in fairly good condition, it turned out to be a lost cause, too much damage, from the heat. Fellow who bought it said he couldn't even salvage parts! Sorry to hear of your loss, sorry to share this news with you too!



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burns

02-15-2001 04:18:24




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
I had bought a flywheel cover for our A that had been on a tractor than burned in a barn fire. It was was recommended that I apply a product called extend on to the bare metal prior to painting. It was explained to me that the acid in the metal would cause problems with paint.(not sure if this is true) I realize this is on a much smaller scale than two complete tractors but hope it helps. Good Luck

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02-14-2001 19:45:07




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
The most important thig is if water hit the tractors while they were hot, if so do not bother to repair them. I did buy a J.D. 40 that was in a fire but the fire dept didn't make it in time! Cleaned, painted, new tires and traded for a 620 LP row crop .



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G Taylor

02-14-2001 11:01:03




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
The local tractor wrecker claims as long as there still is coolant & oil inside, the metal probably didn't get too hot. It's hind site but a heat detector tied into house/shop burglar alarm is cheap early warning. Sprinklers are dirt cheap as well.



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Haybaler

02-14-2001 11:57:50




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 Re: Re: Fire Loss in reply to G Taylor , 02-14-2001 11:01:03  
Well I've heard that too. To play devils advocate, John z. you really ain't got nuthin to lose at least tryin to get 'em back up and runnin. Man I feel for you , I know how I would feel if mine had this happen to them.



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JR

02-14-2001 09:55:15




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 Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-14-2001 09:33:22  
I hate to say it but many parts aren't even salvageable off of them. Tell your insurance man they are a total loss.



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Haybaler

02-14-2001 10:23:35




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 Re: Re: Fire Loss in reply to JR, 02-14-2001 09:55:15  
Sorry, I have to agree. Usually if a tractor burns inside a shed/garage the heat is hotter (concentrated) than if they burnt outside in the 'open'. Usually not anything left that is worth using, messes up the temper of the metal among other nice things. Sorry for the loss of your tractors. My two bits. HB



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John Z.

02-15-2001 12:51:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Fire Loss in reply to Haybaler, 02-14-2001 10:23:35  
"Thanks" to everyone for your advice and support. Hope none of you ever has the same experience. Hate to see grown men cry! John



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Haybaler

02-15-2001 13:09:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Fire Loss in reply to John Z., 02-15-2001 12:51:02  
Believe me I WOULD CRY!!!



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