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JD A starter ring problem

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DaveH

02-10-2001 14:07:48




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I just purchased a 52 A. The starter ring has about 10 teeth in a row that are all mashed down about 3/16" in on the starter side of the flywheel. All of the rest of the teeth look ok except for the normal wear. The starter makes a lot of racket when it hits this bad spot. Can the ring be taken off, turned around, and pressed back on so that the good side will make contact with the starter. The starter is in real good shape and I don't want to trash it. Any dos or don'ts that I should know about before I try this?
Thanks in advance. DaveH

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Dave Kolby

02-13-2001 14:44:15




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 Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to DaveH, 02-10-2001 14:07:48  
I just did my 48 model A last week. Removed flywheel, heated ring gear all around with a propane torch and it came right off with a few hits from a mallet. Turned it around and put back on, works fine! It's a little tougher to get back on cause it's hard to heat the whole thing evenly with a torch. I did get mine done but a couple of extra hands and torches or a different way to heat the ring would be better.

Dave

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Paul

02-13-2001 18:26:21




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 Re: Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to Dave Kolby, 02-13-2001 14:44:15  
Some of the old service manuals suggested building a fire in the driveway, laying the flywheel ring in the fire for a few minutes until hot, and then slipping it in place on the flywheel using tongs to handle it. I used that method and it slipped in place with no resistance. I had to use pliers since I had no tongs. You have to work quickly. It cooled and shrunk tightly to the flywheel within seconds.

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BMAN

02-10-2001 17:48:32




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 Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to DaveH, 02-10-2001 14:07:48  
A new ring gear from John Deere is $206.



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Paul

02-10-2001 17:04:12




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 Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to DaveH, 02-10-2001 14:07:48  
I reversed the ring on my 630. It will come off easily by heating it evenly around the ring with a torch. I built a fire on the ground, laid it in the coals to heat it, and quickly set it in place on the flywheel in the reversed position, making sure the worn teeth were in a different spot on the flywheel. I pull started the tractor and touched a weld grinder to the rotating ring to make a new bevel on the bendix side of the ring. It's worked for about 25 years since reversing it. New rings used to be expensive - I was so poor I couldn't afford to pay attention. . .

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Charlie

02-10-2001 16:19:45




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 Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to DaveH, 02-10-2001 14:07:48  
I've got a similar problem on my Farmall M. I'd suggest its the same amount of work to put on a new one as it is to take off the old one and turn it around. I haven't priced a new ring but I don't think they cost a lot. The bad ring will eventually mess up the starter. Apparently bad starter rings are color blind.



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Larry E

02-10-2001 15:24:56




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 Re: JD A starter ring problem in reply to DaveH, 02-10-2001 14:07:48  
Better off to install new ring,starter will make noise every time it passes this area.eventually the starter will get screwed up by doing what you want to do.



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