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john

11-28-2000 13:53:38

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Outside of the FL election (count or not to count) hoop-la there's probably not a more hotly contested subject than Deere's Collector's Center and 1950's Store. I've missed all the posts on this could someone fill me in on what all of this is about? Thanks.

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ff316

11-28-2000 16:08:05

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Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to john, 11-28-2000 13:53:38

From what I understand JD is starting a collector's club. If you are not a member it will cost quite a bit to use the archives for serial #'s, etc... If you do join there is still a charge. The store is supposedly like a '50's dealership for parts and the like. Get ready for some heated discussion on this matter, and if I'm mistaken someone please correct me.

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ff316

11-28-2000 16:39:11

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Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to ff316, 11-28-2000 16:08:05

I checked JD's web site and found out more, for $50 a year you get one archives access, a magazine subscription or medallion, and a few other things. For $100 you get two archives access, medallion, magazine, and a few others. For $1000(!!) you get "red carpet" treatment in archives, the book, and more. Check out johndeere.com for more. I guess JD has to find some way into everyone's pocket.

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burnsOmatic

11-28-2000 16:20:36

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Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to ff316, 11-28-2000 16:08:05

I receive a newsletter published by John Deere. In the lastest mailing there was an interview with the new big cheese for Deere. This guy's background is BANKING. As far as money, the interview basicly proved (if there was any doubt) that Deere is in it strickly for the money. Merging and aquistitions of other companies and making the fast buck. Apparently, Deere has recognized the $$ in restoration and pulling. They just want to get their grubby hands on more money (just not my money).

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11-28-2000 21:21:06

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Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to burnsOmatic, 11-28-2000 16:20:36

I live about 20 miles from Deere headquarters and because of it our farm runs mostly CIH red. We get to see why their equipment is so high priced. They do not spend much money at all on research and development like most of the other large companies do, rather they put it in other things. They decided that they would build a new golf course for the tournament that they sponsor every year. There went several millions. Sad part is that the average person will never get to play it, green fees are over $100 on a weekday. Deere sinks so much money into the airport here that has such little traffic simply because they want the execs from around the country to say wow when they get off the plane. They spent I don't know how many million to build the pavilion and now this collectors center. Granted, the pavilion is nice, but nothing much more than the display that was in the administration building. Now I see they finally gave up their NASCAR sponsorship, maybe they are getting a little smarter. They wonder why the farm economy is so bad and farmers aren't buying as much. Can't seem to figure out that their equipment is priced too damn high. Farmers in this area are starting to take notice of this. More green is starting to leave the fields, being replaced by more and more red and blue.

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Wind

11-29-2000 10:21:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to jp, 11-28-2000 21:21:06

I have to ask, are you really aware of the research and development budget at Deere? If so, would you care to spew some of those numbers? Yes, they did waste money on the golf course, but it also included an agreement for the next 5 years to be officially licsenced grounds equipment for the PGA and all TPC courses. That is probably more profit than the investment in the course.

What DOES really bother me is that even though the company finds ways to make more money from non Ag entities, the farmer does not see any proce drops.

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Cam

11-29-2000 07:52:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to jp, 11-28-2000 21:21:06

I have to be picky here and point out that the cherry-red tractors are not red to the core. The glimmer of green sticking out of the C-IH is real!! Case front-end loaders (MW24C types) and CIH 4-wds are manufactured here in Fargo, at the old STEIGER plant. You got to love that Steiger green. (Case-IH bought them out).

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11-28-2000 19:22:43

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Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to burnsOmatic, 11-28-2000 16:20:36

Why do some people think it's wrong for other people to be in business to make money? I thought that was the reason to be in business.

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doug

11-28-2000 16:56:33

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Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to burnsOmatic, 11-28-2000 16:20:36

So what is wrong with making money? i thought that is why i go to work. thought that is why i invest in the stock market and why i put money back into a savings account to make money. what i dont get is about all the fuss is about? a bounch of OLD FARTS whinning about paying 35 dollars when they bought a new truck(35,000) and trailer(4,000)to pull they beloved tractor 5 miles down the road to a tractor pull. they also have a 2,000 paint job on it and to top it off it is the wrong color!!!! i can go into the coffee shop and lesson to the same old B.S.
the fact remains J.D. is doing it so get OVER it !!!!! !!!

I would reather pay deere money ,then to a bunch of old self righthess want to be farmers living in the passed thinking they are the only ones that know anything .YES deere is going to make money off of it !! they are in the bussness of making money you 15 bricks shy of a full load dim witted people and why should they NOT you are useing there name and logos without there permission!
I beleave deere is doing this for the good of the collector.
as far as green mag. is concerned they are woried they will not have the POWER they once enjoyed and think they are behind a lot of the neg. post on here . to many post dont have a return e-mail i have to ask why and my answer is they dont want you to know who they are because they dont want you to know the TRUTH! this WILl be a good thing if all the dim wits will let it.

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Greg H.

11-30-2000 13:32:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

Go out and get your fingers in the dirt, and try to make some money with these old tractors; along with trying to enjoy them as a hobby and way of life, and you will realize you have alot to learn about what is reasonable and what is not; in relation to parts price, and general information about these old John Deere Machines. I get the feeling Deere doesn't love us good old boys as much as we love their old Machines. But then again I couldn't imagine what it would like being an IH or Oliver man. Later, Greg H. P.S. I didn't use my E-mail address, so kiss my big ole hair __ __ __.

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doug

12-01-2000 05:52:07

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to Greg H., 11-30-2000 13:32:04

I bet I could buy you out with a eye blink!

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Cam

11-29-2000 07:54:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

Thank you for your submission. However, it does not suit our current needs.

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Dave 2N

11-29-2000 06:08:54

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

You got to be "jerking our chain" here; that's the only explanation I can figure for your response. Anyway,there is nothing wrong with making money. But there is something wrong with making "Al Gore-type" generalizations about the people out there in the tractor hobby. Sure, there are those with expensive trucks, trailers and tractor paint jobs but then there are those out there who are "doing" with a lot less. And I bet these people are in the majority. And I don't think I or anyone else who has PURCHASED a JD product owes them a cent for the logo. They got that money when we bought. The issue here is
not about the right to make money; rather it's about taking advantage of the people who have taken care of them all of these years. I've owned an MT, and a B in the past. I now have a 70 that I completed last spring (no $2000.00 paint job-did it myself). But from here on in, my projects are going to involve re-doing the engine on my Farmall Super C, finish up my Super H and then look for a Super M. Yes, JD like everyone else has a right to make money. But I also have the right to spend my money where I want to.

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Hipshot

11-29-2000 05:39:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

Doug,

Thanck ewe for you're very artikulate response to the gentleman's rekwest for informachun about the John deere collectors store. As you have obviously grasped this a very sensitive ischew amongst the reeders of this forum. Very seldum do members of this bulletin bored here an argument stated so sukcintly, and with such congeniality and wit! Do you offer seminars on effektive communikations? I am shure that many of us could benfit from your nolledge and intellijence.

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burnsOmatic

11-28-2000 18:16:54

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

Apparently, my 15 bricks fell off and hit you square in the face. Where do you get off with claiming I'm using their name without their permission. Is it my fault that the tractor came with the words JOHN DEERE decaled on the side. I better go out and take the decals off the tractor.(DAAAAA )

I have restored three Deeres from the ground up. I keep a folder of all the receipts for expenses on each tractor. Quick figuring (Sorry, slow figuring because I am a dim whit) show that I have spent enough money at my local dealership that would equal 15-20 years of red carpet treatment at the 1950's screw you over showroom.

By the way what is your story? Did the old lady kick you out because you were to smart. I bet all of the OLD FARTS at the coffee shop kicked you out because of your superior intellect and spelling.

Provided is a link for you and all other morons in the world.

Link

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Thanks for the e-mail

11-28-2000 17:58:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

One nice thing about when you give your e-mail. I can post it on the www.givethedumbshit.com junk mail. I hope you enjoy the porn and viruses you will be receiving!! Now who is the dim witted, self righthess, know it all, farmer who doesn't know the difference from his a$$ and the whole in the ground that he hides his head it.

By the way is your name really Denny

Like Denny's Carb shop.. I can Gaurantee your an A$$HOLE.

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hey buddy

11-28-2000 17:27:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

You sound like somebody who didn't punch their chad all the way through. In the mean time, visit
www.teachmetospell.com

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Gman

11-28-2000 17:23:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Collector's Center, 1950's Store in reply to doug, 11-28-2000 16:56:33

Doug I guess you are Deere's P.R. man,with your way with words Mr. Linke will probably give you a job or promotion at the new collectors center which would be good for the both of you. Doug keep the nasty post up,good publicity. Gman

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