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A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!!

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Luke Rhonemus

10-03-2000 17:38:13

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Hi I'm Luke and I'm currently attending The Ohio State University. I am a collector of 2-cylinders and I just got finished looking at a 1943-44 A, not sure which year exactly. I have a question about the electric start on it. It has no flywheel cover (didn't think they had one anyway, but is it supposed too?) Also has a flywheel with teeth around it for the starter, which sits on top of the flywheel directly in front of the steering shaft pedestal. Is this original or has he changed the flywheel? The starter is brand new complete with a foot starting switch built in. It would make me a good restoration project but I need to know if the starting unit is original or not. (A has "John Deere" stamped on back axle, metal pan seat and straight frame. Thanks and please feel free to email me anytime.

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Handclutch

10-07-2000 17:39:34

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

the thing to remember is that there were tractors made with different options in the same year. All that you expained is origional...however there should be a "ring" around the starter teeth on the flywheel.

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luke

10-07-2000 20:36:02

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Re: Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Handclutch, 10-07-2000 17:39:34

Looked at the A again the other day. He has the ring that goes around the flywheel and it is a "long hood" A with the battery under the hood, is an all fuel tractor but is missing the small fuel tank closest to the driver, is this hard to obtain and about how much would one cost if I could get one. Thanks, Luke

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Hand Clutch

10-07-2000 21:43:42

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Re: Re: Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to luke, 10-07-2000 20:36:02

It's really hard to tell...I'll look around here in Pa - even if it's too far for you maybe I can get an idea of price...I assume that you want a tank that is useable, not one that may leak-just for appearance sake? There are alot of long hoods around here...I may be able to find you one. good luck and if there is anything I can do let me know [email protected]

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Dusty Miller age 12.

10-05-2000 19:35:45

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

Hi! My dad has a 1944 "A" JD and they are supposed to have an electric start, and it doesn't have to have a battery box under the seat,it all depends on the rear end.If you have a rearend of a 50 model "A" JD then it will have bolt holes for a battery box,but you don't have to put it on.

If you have any more questions feel free to e-mail me.

see'ya Dusty.

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B.A.

10-04-2000 23:08:59

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

Sounds pretty wild to me. I thought that the "A" model went to the "styled A" model in 1939 and then went to the electric start in 1946 or 7 when the battery was stashed under the "box" seat.
I don't think I've seen an "A" that has a pan seat with electric start. I'd like to see one as I have a hand crank "A" with a 6 volt distributor that was put in years ago. The battery is mounted on the right side of the steering shaft pedestal. I wonder if the starter set up you speak of could be an "add on" kit that came out to convert pan seat type tractors from hand crank to electric? Does the tractor have lights on it too?
I wonder if anyone out there can set me straight about the years of change here? And the starter set up you speak of?

Click on the link to view photos of my tractor. Exact year not known.

My John Deere

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Stan

10-05-2000 05:11:31

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Re: Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to B.A., 10-04-2000 23:08:59

Here's what I found in a Green Magazine article by J. R. Hobbs - I'll not quote all of it, but here are the main points about the electric start early styled A tractors:

1) Not clear when electric starting and lighting first offered.
2) May have been available very late in 1939 production year.
3) It is known that the option was available either at or very shortly after the start of the 1940 model year.
4) In later years, kits were offered to convert the 1939-up tractors. Several forms available: Starting and lighting, or lighting only, or starting only.
5) You could still hand crank the tractor by removing the steering wheel and using a special adapter to connect it to the flywheel.
6) These systems were 6 volt.

Stan

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Brandon

10-04-2000 20:17:25

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

We have a 1946 B with electric start. The starter is engaged with a pedal, which turns the teeth on the flywheel. However, there is a cover over the teeth (not the whole flywheel). All the Bs before 1947 I've seen with electric start have this cover. After 1947, the whole flywheel was covered.

Good luck,
Brandon

My website about industrial John Deere tractors

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Dave Kolby

10-04-2000 13:56:45

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

We had one in the late fourties that was exactly like that so I would guess it is original. Those were the early electric start tractors.

Dave

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Kris

10-04-2000 09:33:26

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

Hey Luke I agree with Stan sounds original. My dad used to have a B around that year and his was the same way. I am also a college student with a 51 model B. Gosh I love those Deere's. Grew up with them all of my life.

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Stan

10-03-2000 18:17:09

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Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Luke Rhonemus, 10-03-2000 17:38:13

The lack of a flywheel cover, the teeth around the outer edge of the flywheel, the starter in the proper location with a "pedal" to push to activate the starter - they all sound like an early styled electric start tractor to me.

Stan

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Luke

10-03-2000 19:48:57

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Re: Re: A John Deere Question, PLEASE HELP 19 year old college student!!! in reply to Stan, 10-03-2000 18:17:09

Thanks Stan for the your advice. Luke

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