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Gene Thieret

10-01-2000 04:23:55




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I am think of buying the 420. It is priced at $2500.00 and has been in use for field mowing and is claimed to be good shape. What do I need to check to determine its condition and value? Can diesel fuel be used or is it strictly gasoline? Are parts readely available? thank you




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G Taylor check the RP

10-01-2000 12:59:08




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 Re: J D 420W in reply to Gene Thieret, 10-01-2000 04:23:55  
If the trans oil is low grade or dirty, the tractor has been ballasted and used for heavy towed loads then the ring and pinion maybe worn. Hve been quoted $900.00 for a used set by an advertiser in Green magazine. Should be able to see them through the engine speed PTO drive cover above the 540 rpm pto shaft. The cover has three bolts above the 540 shaft. Check the oilbath aircleaner mesh way above the oil bath cup. Maybe clean on the bottom 1 " but plugged the rest of the way up.

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Johnnyputt

10-01-2000 06:33:35




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 Re: J D 420W in reply to Gene Thieret, 10-01-2000 04:23:55  
I failed to answer two of your questions. Yes, most all internal parts are available, ie. bearings, gaskets, seals. Some gears for tranny and differential are not.

Not sure if the 420 you're looking at is all fuel or not. If it has two fuel tanks, it's all fuel. If only one tank, it's gas only.



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Johnnyputt

10-01-2000 06:03:05




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 Re: J D 420W in reply to Gene Thieret, 10-01-2000 04:23:55  
If you're buying it to restore and show, things you want to look for are the condition of the tin; are the components all there...ie, battery cover, fenders, lights etc. Little things like these that need replacing can add up quickly. Be sure to drive it in every gear and listen for unusual engine noise, transmission noise etc. Look to see if the serial number tag is missing and if so, that ususally reduces the value by $500. If your buying it to use, it'll probably go for a long long time as it's used to that now. Just keep an eye on the fluid levels because Dubuque built tractors love to leak.

I recently bought a 420W for $2500 and it's tag was missing. However, the engine, water pump and hydraulic pump and lift assembly had just been rebuilt. It had no lights, no fenders, no battery cover and the tin was fair. The nose cone was beat up badly and cost me $300 to get it straightened out at a body shop, less the cost of new grill screens. The rear wheels had been welded and built up at the valve stems, but I cut that out and patched it with JB weld and shaped it to look orginal. The rebuilt engine and the like made it well worth $2500 to me.

When I first got the tractor home, and stopped after driving it, it would rock back and forth. I thought it might have some terrible crap in the transmission making it want to lunge forward. I changed the oil and it was gunk, mud and water... nasty!! It still rocked forward after stopping. It turned out to be fluid in the tires that was sloshing around making the tractor rock.

Hope this helps.

Bruce

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MN Bob

10-01-2000 06:56:39




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 Re: Re: J D 420W in reply to Johnnyputt, 10-01-2000 06:03:05  
Interesting concept of the JB Weld on the wheels. The only place I have used it was on a ABS pipe on my 5th Wheel. Road fix and it is still leaking. I could only find it in small tubes that you mix togather, seems it would take a lot of tubes for a wheel repair. Can someone clue me in on the best way to buy it for larger repairs? Will it hold up in a fuel/gas enviroment? Thanks, MN Bob



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