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LitttleDeere48

09-26-2000 09:51:25




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Wierd question.....can I use ethanol blend gas in my 1948 B????? My uncle said it was bad for the tractor. Thanks :)




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G Taylor

09-28-2000 19:17:47




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
Alcohols are oxygen bearing fuels with fewer BTU's per pound. If jetted lean and mixed with gasoline the engine will run hot. When jetted properly an alcohol fuel engine combustion tempurature is much lower than gasoline.



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Dan-CA

09-27-2000 13:34:28




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
Slow down a little bit. Let's get back to the question. I think they asked about ETHANOL,not METHANOL. Methanol(turpentine, or wood alcohol), which is widely used, will attack rubber parts. It is quite cheep to produce, so the oil companies supply it. In the midwest, Ethanol(corn alcohol) is produced at some times. It does not have all of the negative effects of methanol. Your tractor may run hotter as both of these create more heat than gasolene. This is a factor of them increasing the octane rating.

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Dan-CA

09-27-2000 13:34:17




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
Slow down a little bit. Let's get back to the question. I think they asked about ETHANOL,not METHANOL. Methanol(turpentine, or wood alcohol), which is widely used, will attack rubber parts. It is quite cheep to produce, so the oil companies supply it. In the midwest, Ethanol(corn alcohol) is produced at some times. It does not have all of the negative effects of methanol. Your tractor may run hotter as both of these create more heat than gasolene. This is a factor of them increasing the octane rating.

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John T (Yo Mike and clooney)

09-26-2000 18:29:47




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
Hey clooney man, I feud with my good friend Ol Mike there all the time (even at Gathering of the Green and Expo X) and we have lots of fun. He is from Missouri or somewhere like that though (stubborn) and we argue whether or not switching wires on a mag and installing it 180 out makes her run different (I say no he says yes) Yeah its fun to air our opinions on here and they are worth about what we are paid to post em right ???? There used to be a chemist who posted here, wheres he at when we need hinm anyway??? Ol John T

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clooney

09-26-2000 16:25:10




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
LitttleDeere48, you can use it & it won't hurt the engine any, but it isn't good for that old fuel system. If you have a cork float it will eat the shellac off the float, if you leave it in the fuel system & let it sit for extended time it will corrode the bottom of the tank, it will eventually ruin the rubber parts in the fuel valve if it is a multi-fuel. I work for one of the big 3 auto companies & when that ethanol gasoline came out we had to come up with special rubber hoses, carb parts, fuel pumps & rubber parts for the fuel system. If you use it, use it up before you store the tractor. Most fuel systems can tolerate a little ethanol but you never know how much is in the gasoline you buy because it doesn't stay mixed with the gasoline very good. The damage isn't instantaneous but over time it will make your life miserable.

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Mike Aylward

09-26-2000 17:19:51




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 Re: Re: JD b fuel question in reply to clooney, 09-26-2000 16:25:10  
Well clooney, here we go again! I have used ethanol in my two-cylinder tractors for twenty years with absolutely NO ill effects. It actually keeps the fuel sysyem in better condition than when regular gasoline is used. A late B will have a metal float in it, and there is nothing in the fuel system that will give any trouble, other than the initial "cleaning out" process that ethanol does. Sorry to be disagreeable here, but the stuff works fine. Mike

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clooney

09-26-2000 17:48:44




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 Re: Re: Re: JD b fuel question in reply to Mike Aylward, 09-26-2000 17:19:51  
Mike, nothing to be sorry about. You are just stating the facts as you have seen & had experience with & I am just stating the facts as I have seen & had experience with. Most of my experience has been in the field of auto fuel systems, but the tractor problems I have seen are just about the same. It may be that the gasoline blends are different in your part of the country or the weather is not as big a factor in your area. Up north our antique tractors sit in storage for extended periods with extreme changes in temperature.

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Mike Aylward

09-26-2000 15:51:35




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 Re: JD b fuel question in reply to LitttleDeere48, 09-26-2000 09:51:25  
You can use ethanol without any ill effects. I use it in all of my two-cylinder tractors. You will want to keep a close eye on the sediment bowl for the first few tanks because the alcohol will loosen all of the old varnish in the tank and lines, but once you get it clean it is an excellent way to keep your fuel system clean, which is important, especially on a tractor that doesn't see work everyday. Hope this helps. Mike

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LittleDeere48

09-26-2000 19:40:34




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 Re: Re: JD b fuel question in reply to Mike Aylward, 09-26-2000 15:51:35  
Thanks for the help.....



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