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WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER?

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BARRY

04-20-2000 06:04:45




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HI GUYS, I AM LOOKING AT A 95 DODGE 3/4 TON 4X4 PICKUP W/360 ENG. AND A 95 CHEVY K2500 4X4 W/350 ENG. BOTH HAVE ABOUT 60K MILES. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT DODGE PICKUPS, WHAT SHOULD I LOOK OUT FOR? ALSO HOW HARD IS IT TO ROMOVE A LIFT KIT? ANY SUGGESTIONS APPRECIATED!!




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Nic C

05-03-2000 19:29:14




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
Truly, I'am a dodge man, I have an 84' 3/4ton 4x4 360w/ a 4 speed tranny, and it's a horse, but I also have a 1/2ton 4x4 chevy 350w/ an auto tranny. I think the 350 chevy is the best motor ever made. But I still love the dodges!, well not as much as a JD4020!
p.s.,
It depends on what kind of lift kit it is, I know that suspinsion lifts are hard on u-joints, usually if a truck has a lift kit on it, it's been mudded or ran hard..... . but not always!!

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Wayne

04-23-2000 22:50:31




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
Barry, bite the bullet, go out & buy a 97-98 Ford 3/4 ton turbo diesel with as few miles as you can find. After the initial sticker shock, you'll be glad you did.



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Don

04-22-2000 06:19:39




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
I've owned them all one time or another I do all my own work I've replaced a camshaft in every GM i've owned . I've had both good and bad Fords but the ones that have given more service and expect fewer repairs is the Dodge. When you buy used it's a gammble no matter what make you choose but a lot depends on how much preventive maintainance the previous owner gave the vehicle . If it been used & abused repairs are not far down the road.

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Gman

04-20-2000 23:17:50




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
Son buy the one that don't have the lift kit,them things spell trouble my opinion, If it was a power stroke there wouldn't be no question what to buy----Ford---. Later Gman



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HMan

04-20-2000 15:12:52




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
You'll get lots of opinions on this subject, here's mine. If the chevy is a 8600 gvw truck, it will have the heavy duty 350 and heavy duty tranny. No finer small block engine has ever been made. I know people that have 300,000 plus on some, never rebuilt.As far as the tranny, if it's an automatic it's a basic turbo400 with electronic shifting, no problem there! Just keep it serviced and enjoy.The chevy should get better gas mileage and have about the same power. I'll be quick to agree Dodge has the best diesel pickup, but GM has the best gas. Can't help on the lift kit. My 2 cents.

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Mike Aylward

04-20-2000 13:41:11




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
I have a Cummins in my Dodge ('96) and love it. I am also very happy with the rest of the truck. Our family always drove Fords (over 50 years worth) but I would be hard-pressed to own another Ford pickup after driving this Dodge. However, if someone were to factory-install a John Deere 6.8 liter (414 c.i.) engine in a truck, I would seriously consider it! It would probably be too expensive to do, and too heavy, also, but that would be an engine to be reckoned with. My humble opinion. Mike

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Jack

04-20-2000 12:54:26




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
As far as which one is better they both are going to have their down falls and good points.But I'll just tell that a Chevrolet will have a higher resale value than anything else if were talking gas engines.The toughest truck I have ever owned was a Ford so I can't knock em.The 360 Dodge is a good strong engine but the 350 Chevy will do as much with no problem,so I think I would lean towards resale value.The Chevrolet will also ride better than the Dodge,providing the tires are OEM.This is a good subject for me because where I work we have over 100 vehicles and I have worked on all of them.The Dodges we have now are doing good so fer but the 92 model on down the doors kept breaking out around the hinges.The Fords that we have now have had several recalls on them and the door switches are an aggrivating problem.The Chevrolets have some check engine soon lights come on.Just my thoughts Jack.

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Greg H.

04-20-2000 10:35:50




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
I have experience with Dodge, Ford and Chevey when it comes to work trucks, and they all have good things and bad things about them. The Chevy 350 engine is great, and they drive like a car with regular size tires on them, but their 4x4 hub system pretty much sucks, and forget about their Auto-Transmissions, My family has had transmission trouble with three chevys 92, 93 and 96 models. Standard transmission seems to fare better. Dodge is a decent truck and the straight front axel adds some strength in the front end. If I were going to buy a Dodge It would have to have a Cummins or V10 engine, the one with the 360 I've driven was not impressive, but the cummins motor is. The Fords are nice if you can find a 97 or newer with the straight front axel, and power stroke motor, and lock in and lock out hubs. Again the ford with 351 I had seemed to fall on its ear with a load, and the farm truck with the 460 uses entirely too much gas. But between the two you mentioned, if it were me and the Chevy had a standard transmission, and wan't going to be ran in 4x4 too much I'd buy it. But if it has an Auto transmission, then I would buy the Dodge regardless of what transmission it has. Sorry about the long post, but it's rare that I get to chime in about something I'm realy oppinionated about. Afterall noone has mouthed off about the 4020 lately, so I've had it all bottled up. Good luck, Greg H.

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Jim

04-20-2000 14:40:34




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 Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Greg H., 04-20-2000 10:35:50  
My Father in law was getting his chevy trans. rebuilt at a trans. shop. He ask what who had the best tran. ,and the guy doing the repairs said that chevy has the best trans. Dodge is the poorest and that ford was in the middle.



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The Red

04-20-2000 10:55:48




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 Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Greg H., 04-20-2000 10:35:50  
Greg I am surprised about the transmission problems. Of course mine doesn't get that much farm work. I always change the transmission fluid and filter at 25,000 mile intervals and never had any automatic transmssion troubles. Maybe I was lucky.



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Greg H.

04-21-2000 10:27:22




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 Re: Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to The Red, 04-20-2000 10:55:48  
Yes I'm sure regular maintanence helps. It seems that for some reason water was getting into the transmissions awfully easily, so we started taking extra precausions to extending the vent tubesup against the back of the fire wall. We actually lost the 93 model crew cab due to a 4x4 malfunction. Brother was driving it and I was a passenger, going down a dirt {mud} road with alittle bit of snow on it. the stick was placed in 4x4, and the light was on stating that we were in 4 wheel drive, and had been for about 2 miles. We started up a bank and the back end of the truck spun sideways off the road, the front wheel weren't pulling. The truck then started sliding bacwards over a hill on the pasture. My brother held the trottle wide open while I baled out, then as the truck kept sliding over the hill with only the back wheels spinning, brother jumped free of the truck, getting hit pretty hard by the door, and then the truck just rolled about 200 feet backwards before sailing over a cliff, and getting wedged between two trees. Three state fairs and one freek show, and I ain't never seen anything like that truck all wedged in a v shape. I was scared to death, and I'm glad brother landed in water, because, I 'm sure he pissed himself. That happened in 95 and the truck had about 45000 miles on it at the time. That is the reason that I only purchase 4x4 work trucks with Lock in and Lock out hubs I know it's in there until I take it out or something starts grinding real bad, and I still preferr a standard transmission. I still like cheverolet cars and trucks, and my wifes current car is a 98 blazer LT, and it's been a great ride so far, but my truck unfortunately is a ford. Maybe Chevy will someday make a work truck the way I want one. Later Greg H.

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Nathan

04-21-2000 20:30:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Greg H., 04-21-2000 10:27:22  
Greg, Sounds like a wild ride. I had an 88 Chevy 4x4 with automatic. Pulled all kinds of things and never had a problem with trans, but I also changed the fluid and filter on a regular basis. It had 185,000 miles when I sold it. On the subject of front wheels not pulling. It wasn't the hubs, it's the solenoid that engages the front axle. Mine wouldn't engage unless I backed up a few feet after engaging 4 wheel drive. After this it was good to go. The solenoid isn't strong enough to engage the gear in front axle sometimes. This may not have been your problem, but it was what I found out on mine the hard way,stuck.
Nathan

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The Red

04-21-2000 15:07:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Greg H., 04-21-2000 10:27:22  
Glad you are alive to tell the story. WHEW!



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The Red

04-20-2000 09:13:58




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
Out by my farm, one of the big operators had 2 or 3 Dodges in the mid-1990s. He complained about how they were constantly needing warranty work with some big time problems. He had one in the shop almost constantly.

My other farm neighbors have GMC or Chevy trucks with 350 engines. One runs real well at 160,000 miles with no major work on it. The other he just traded at 275,000 miles. The heads were never pulled on that truck and it was using a quart every 3,000 miles. These are farm pickups and have been used pretty hard.

I had a 1990 GMC pickup I traded for my 98 Chevy and it was still going strong at 82,000 miles. My current 1998 Chevy has 21,000 miles on it and I have not had a lick of problems with it.

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JDGnut

04-20-2000 09:04:40




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
Chevy-Dodge... I am a die hard Chevy man.. If I was buying another truck.. (and I am looking for one.) between the two you mentioned I would have to buy the Chevy.. I think the body and engine will hold together better then the Dodge.. but if I was looking for a Diesel, I would have to buy the Cummins.. (I can't say the D word and buy in the same sentance yet..lol.. ) On the lift kit, it depends on the type of kit.. If it is a body lift they are not hard to install or remove. But the supenion lift are more difficult. And if it is a 6in lift supenion lift, you can almost forget, as some of the stock components are cut off the frame when the lift is installed.. (This is on a Chevy.. as least I know the Pro Comp lifts are this way... brother has one..)I am not sure on a Dodge, I don't think anything is cut off the Dodge's as they have the coil springs up front. But some of the arms may have been replaced with aftermarket arms, which could be longer.. Well I'm done rambling for now.. got to get to the Hay field.. I'll catch ya'll later..
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The one thing Dodge has going for it!!!

04-20-2000 06:44:24




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 Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to BARRY, 04-20-2000 06:04:45  
ITS NOT A CHEVY!!!!! !!

Ford Man



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Charlie

04-20-2000 07:04:23




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 Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to The one thing Dodge has going for it!!!, 04-20-2000 06:44:24  
Buy the FORD.John Deere does't make pickups,yet!



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Jim

04-20-2000 07:33:58




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 Re: Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Charlie, 04-20-2000 07:04:23  
If you want to support John Deere you would buy the Chevy. John Deere is in several agreements with GM. Or you can buy a Ford diesel and use IH technology.



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Gman

04-20-2000 23:23:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WHAT USED PICKUP IS BETTER? in reply to Jim, 04-20-2000 07:33:58  
Jim there isn't anything wrong with IH except it's red --TRUCKS ARE RED--TRACTORS ARE GREEN IH just didn't know the power of green. Gman



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