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JD 350C rattle

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JohnT

05-20-2008 01:37:38




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I recently purchased a JD 350C "relife" US Forestry Service dozer that was completely rebuilt including new 179 engine, reverser, finals, etc. JD issued a new serial number and new hour meter. The dozer has 500 hours on it.

The dozer had been sitting for several years and when I first ran it as the oil heated up the dozer would not climb a grade. Reverser oil level was good. I exercised it for 2-3 hours and now I can get the tracks to spin. Then the rattle developed.

My problem is that at low RPM (<800)there is a rattle in the area of the flywheel. It sounds like someone is shaking a can full of ball bearings. I pressure washed some hard caked mud and stones from between the lower case of the reverser and belly pan and that helped eliminate the tin drum sound, but the rattle is still there. When the machine climbs the rattle disappears. Going down hill, or in no load situations the rattle is constant.

I suspected the torsional vibration damper, but according the JD during the relife rebuild they replaced the spring unit with the newer 350D style rubber unit. Will the rubber vibration isolator make this noise? I have heard that the rubber units were also prone to failure and that they would lock-up. Is this true?

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jdemaris

05-20-2008 06:36:49




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 Re: JD 350C rattle in reply to JohnT, 05-20-2008 01:37:38  
I can't say how long they lasted over time -but can tell you this. The 1010s and first 350s didn't have a multi-piece isolator and were fine. Then - Deere changed over to the multi-piece setup and they had chronic problems. I had to fix many out in the woods and we even had some brand-new 350Cs that failed before they even got sold. Deere changed to the one-piece setup with the late 350Cs - ser. # 706659 and newer. After that, we never had a single failure. Same setup was used in the 350Ds. We had a fleet of over 20 rental crawlers that got abused something awful - besides many owned by our customers. I've heard many with the new isolators rattle and make noise - but have yet to see a single failure. I also don't understand how if one did fail - how it could lock up an engine like the old ones did. The old setup had separate posts, anchors, and springs - and they would break off and jam against the flywheel. The new system doesn't have any small parts to break off.

One disclaimer - I left Deere around 1992 - and can't comment much on what happened since then - from a Dealer's perspective.

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JohnT

05-20-2008 07:09:50




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 Re: JD 350C rattle in reply to jdemaris, 05-20-2008 06:36:49  
That's good news. I think I read about the engine lockup in jdcrawlers.com. I too was confused on how a rubber coupling could lockup the flywheel.

I assume the rattle that I am hearing is the spline shaft moving wihtin the spline coupling as the cylinders fire and the torque pulses. I should probably check the reverser pressure to make sure that the engine is loading up properly. I'll do a filter and fluid service to make sure the proper viscosity oil is in there too.

The machine seems to be running better the more I exercise it, so I assume there is/was some type of sludge gumming up the valves.

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