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350A reverser lockup

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andyjd350

05-15-2008 14:08:26




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For some time my 350A"s reverser has been showing signs of being tired.
First the forward drive went, it pulls slightly but not enough to do
any work. Makes a few rattling sounds as it goes. I"m assuming clutch pack gone.

So as I"m building a house I didn"t want to get into rebuilding the
reverser etc. so I got by by changing gear, 4 reverse and 1 forward
... with occasional drag changing gear but not often.

Today whilst doing some light work suddenly I couldn"t get it in gear
and the only way was to switch off and start up. But with the reverser
in Neutral it took off, and did so in the forward direction. So I
switched off and put the gears in neutral, reverser in neutral. Then
when I put the reverser into reverse, gearbox still in neutral it
stalled the engine.

With the reverser in neutral I can start and move off but the clutch
doesn"t work i.e. like my foot is off the pedal.

So I guess I should check the hyd pressures filter linkages etc. but I"m
posting now in case anyone thinks that the reverser is shot for sure
and hence will have to come out - or else has an explanation of what"s
happening.

Thanks

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jdemaris

05-16-2008 05:34:15




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 Re: 350A reverser lockup in reply to andyjd350, 05-15-2008 14:08:26  
Sounds like you have a big ,expensive mess. Using it with the reverser in "reverse" all the time, with the gear-trans in "reverse" - to work in forward direction - is a bad idea. The hydraulic reverser is much weaker in "reverse" position - especially earlier 350s. That because the input shaft has to turn counter to the output shaft, and the early machines have a small, inadequate counter-bearing between them. With the mid-range 350Bs, it got beefed up a bit with a different front drum, shaft, and larger bearing assembly.

You've got burned clutch packs, and perhaps two shafts that have virtually welded themselves to each other. It could easily cost over $4000 if you have a dealer fix it. And - some of the early parts are not available and require and upgrade that can add on a lot more money.

If it were mine - I'd shop around for a used, but not trashed reverser if priced reasonable. Then, pull it part, fix as needed, and use it - instead of fixing the one in it.

If you are going to pay someone else to fix it - check around and find someone that has experience. Many Deere dealerships do not - and with just screw up the job and cost you a lot of extra money. Bearing endplay is critical in these reversers and is often done wrong which leads to a quick failure after a so-called rebuild.

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Roy Suomi

05-15-2008 19:57:10




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 Re: 350A reverser lockup in reply to andyjd350, 05-15-2008 14:08:26  
First off , They didn't make an "A" model....Second- sounds like you need to pull that reverser and go thru it..I've rebuilt many and use a test procedure to test them on the ground so I know they will work before installing it...



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andyjd350

05-16-2008 00:52:04




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 Re: 350A reverser lockup in reply to Roy Suomi, 05-15-2008 19:57:10  
Thanks Roy, how long would you estimate it should take a shop to get the reverser out fixed and back in ?

Reason being the local Deere dealership say they can't quote a price as they work by the hour.

Or put it another way what would a typical job like that cost in the USA ?

I said 350A if you put 350 then everyone then asks if its a B or C

Thanks



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