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Oil leaking from petcocks before starting

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A Deere Army Pu

04-24-2008 09:57:28




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I just got back from Afghanistan on deployment and I am trying to get my 51 A puller rebuilt and ready to pull. I have a problem of oil leaking from the relief valves before I start the old girl up. I haven't dug into the motor yet to see what the problem is but taking suggestions on what possibility of the problem might be. Any help would be great. Not sure if the motor was rebuilt before I got it or if there has been any mods done to it. Thanks for the help.

Carl

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buck eye al

04-24-2008 15:10:30




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  
Every late styled A and B I ever was around (with compression relief petcocks in the bottom of the block) has done this. Right when you open it up it spits a few drops of oil at you right?

Consider that oil is being distributed all along the cylinder walls through the ring land holes in the piston. Also when it is shut down, what oil is there tends to migrate to the bottom of the cylinder right where this hole sits just waiting to be filled with something. Even if the engine is run hard at operating temperature, that's still NOT hot enough to vaporize this oil. At least we sure hope not, otherwise you'll soon have more problems to worry about than a few drops of oil spitting at you at the next start! Because the rings can't scrape the oil out of this hole, some collects in the hole while runnng plus a little more once parked and it stays there as long as gravity is at work, the green side is up and the black side (the tires) are down. That oil stays put 'till you open the relief valve and then phhht out it dribbles right in your hand or up your wrist.

The time to be alarmed is when you one day open them and gasoline or antifreeze starts to run out and continutes to do so. Those however make up a whole other set of stories!

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A Deere Army Puller

04-24-2008 21:53:38




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to buck eye al, 04-24-2008 15:10:30  
Thanks Al and everyone for the advice. I have no worries now about this issue. I appreciate your advice and comments. You have all been very helpful. Now I just got to get her ready for the big dance here in KS. I will be trying to make a pull here in the near future. I hope very soon. Take care and keep in touch. Thanks Gents

Carl



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PBrowning

04-24-2008 13:51:22




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  
This is normal operation. Remember, these engines aren't in the "race car" category. If the oil bugs you, just carry a red rag and wipe away before starting and enjoy the beast. (PatB)



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A Deere Army Puller

04-24-2008 12:16:32




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  
Thanks guys for the comments and it is my job. It does it only when I open it up before I start it and the motor does not smoke otherwise. It has done it since I bought it about 2 years ago. I was just curious if that is normal or if I need to take it apart and investigate further. Also it did smoke the last time I pulled with it right before the last pull. It had been running for quite some time and once we headed down the track it cleared up. If you have any other ideas would be appreciated. Thanks again

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jd b puller

04-24-2008 13:18:45




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 12:16:32  
I don"t think i"d fuss with it. It"s not smoking, and doesn"t foul plugs/burn oil. Might need attention sometime down the road, but not right now.



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jd b puller

04-24-2008 12:05:25




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to d. coleman, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  

A Deere Army Puller said: (quoted from post at 16:57:28 04/24/08) I just got back from Afghanistan on deployment and I am trying to get my 51 A puller rebuilt and ready to pull. I have a problem of oil leaking from the relief valves before I start the old girl up. I haven't dug into the motor yet to see what the problem is but taking suggestions on what possibility of the problem might be. Any help would be great. Not sure if the motor was rebuilt before I got it or if there has been any mods done to it. Thanks for the help.

Carl


A big "thank you" for your service. I flew to Germany about 5 years ago. There was a 18-19 year old kid sitting next to me. He was going over there to learn to drive tanks, and then they were sending him to either Iraq or Afgan. You could tell he was both completely thrilled and completely scared.
On your tractor, it leaks oil when you're cranking it over, or when it's running? I don't see how a stronger spring would help you if it's just when cranking it over. When you say "pulling tractor", has it been bored, stroked, etc? That would be a different animal than a farm tractor with weight brackets that goes to pulls. The guy before you may have the clearance wrong, used the wrong rings, etc... Does it smoke when running?

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James Howell

04-24-2008 11:39:16




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  
First of all and most important - thank you for your military service to the country.

One of the petcocks on "Easy" my 46A leaks oil.

I have replaced at least 3 or 4 "leaking" petcocks on other tractors.

One thing you might try is replacing the petcock with one that has a stronger spring.

You might also "expand" the existing spring and see if that solves the problem.

Hope this helps. Thank you again for your service.

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Mike M

04-24-2008 11:31:14




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to A Deere Army Puller, 04-24-2008 09:57:28  
Common for them to drip oil. I would not use that as any basis to determine engine condition.



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MTC

04-24-2008 19:26:05




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to Mike M, 04-24-2008 11:31:14  
You will firgure that tractor out.I just wanted to say "Welcome Home and THANKS".Mike



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A Deere Army Puller

04-24-2008 21:59:05




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 Re: Oil leaking from petcocks before starting in reply to MTC, 04-24-2008 19:26:05  
No problem and no worries brother I am just greatful to be able to come back with 10 fingers and toes and serve for the greatest country in the world. You are quite welcome.

Carl



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