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HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY????

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Celeste89

04-14-2008 05:54:07

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I have a 1963 4010 and I need to add hydraulic oil to the transmission/hydraulic system. The manual says to use John Deere Type 303 Special-Purpose Oil. I have a Tractor Supply store near my house. Do you know if they sell an equivalent type of oil, and if so what is it, or do I really need to buy the JD oil? How about an auto parts store? I didn't see anything in the archives. Thanks for your time.

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buickanddeere

04-18-2008 16:44:10

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

Wet brakes, wet drive clutch, wet pto clutch. All the same thing to the oil, it must not soften fiber friction material.
A wet clutch oil can have the "friction modifier" package tinkered with. Dextron auto trans oil is designed to allow some slip during clutch engagement. The Ford type F auto trans fluid allows less slippage. Oil for Allison industrial hydrostatic transmissions is a "no slip" oil.

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5020s rock

04-15-2008 01:11:46

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

wow--good question. i have operated,owned and
fixed 50 or so john deeres (dam, that makes me sound old). we have used tsc hydro oil for a long time...now its to exspensive....wal-mart and big r
are the only game in town. i have never seen a
"hydraulic oil" related problem from these "cheap"
oils.

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buickanddeere

04-14-2008 17:25:31

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

If the oil container doesn't say "wet clutch compatible". Don't use it in systems where there are wet clutches or wet brakes.

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Texasmark

04-17-2008 16:13:16

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to buickanddeere, 04-14-2008 17:25:31

Hey buick. Wouldn't the JD spec be different for non wet applications as compared to non wet applications if the regular oil didn't address them? I mean we are talking about additives to support the function and all.

I buy aftermarket oil and the specs are all posted on the container. I think most JD use is 303. I forget what JD calls it's house brand....Hi-Trans or maybe that's an IH trademark. I do recall it mentioning wet brakes (trannies and hyd's including steering systems) on the container but nothing about wet clutch.

I know on cars, if you have positraction you need a supplement for that. Can't use regular GL-5 oil. But no one bothers to recognize your intelligence and tell you why.

So one has to ask, what's the difference? I mean to say do this or don't do that is one thing. To provide a reason why allows me to use my brain and determine if my application has to do with the warning or not. Not dinging you on that but it's a pet peeve of mine and OEM's do it regularly.

Mark

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johns48jdb

04-14-2008 15:43:23

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

hey tstex, i'm not james, but i put some valvoline hyd oil in my ih 574 and it ate the pto clutches up in it. if its says use jd oil, thats what i would use. i don't know where you guys are getting the info on dope for rear ends from, but for my 48 b it specs 140 wt. maybe you need to consult your owners manula again.

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dlplost

04-14-2008 09:43:57

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

YES, TSC has a "303" hydraulic oil. AutoZone,
NAPA and CarQuest all have it also.

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Celeste89

04-14-2008 10:21:23

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to dlplost, 04-14-2008 09:43:57

Thanks for your time.

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MSM

04-14-2008 06:45:20

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

Any good quality UNIVERSAL TRACTOR FLUID will work,Napa sells it,TSC sells it,even some Walmarts sell it as do most oil suppliers.Do not use straight hydraulic oil!

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James Tabor

04-14-2008 06:41:11

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to Celeste89, 04-14-2008 05:54:07

As long as the API (American Petroleum Institute) specs are the same you will be fine. JD oils and lubes are double the price and not worth it. I just replaced the gear oil in my 45 B. Deere wanted $95.00 for 5 gal. of 90W. I bought a high quality Shell brand 80W-90 at a distributor for $49.00. Deere talks about special aditives etc. I think it's like everything else they sell, WAY over priced. I would like to add that there are some inferrior oils and lubes out there. Just make sure what you buy meets the API specs you need.

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do it yourself

04-14-2008 12:54:39

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to James Tabor, 04-14-2008 06:41:11

well i work on jd tractors everyday, for a living, not jd dealer , i wouldn't put anything in it but JD had lots off good luck with deere oil, not so good with others, your money, but for a little more i'd take the deere oil

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cannonball

04-15-2008 05:15:14

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to do it yourself, 04-14-2008 12:54:39

What do you think they put in deere tractors when the dealer works on them... not that high dollar 5 gallon buckets, they have a bulk tank and that oil comes from cheapest bid..don't know if it has deere additives or not just know that is what happens in east tx...

MAY GOD BLESS THE USA

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tstex

04-14-2008 15:18:32

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Re: HYDRAULIC OIL AT TRACTOR SUPPLY???? in reply to do it yourself, 04-14-2008 12:54:39

James, why?

can you pls be more specific?

Do you have the service histories of every tractor you ever repaired before you worked on it the first time?

Unless you have two exact tractors or similar, and have treated one with JD and the other with another inferior oil [or a great oil liek shell rotella], how can you compare them?

Thank you for your time james.

regards,
tstex

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