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60 crankshaft

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Jeff H

02-15-2000 16:47:32




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I have a 60 that the driving disk on the crank is loose. Tried an undersized spline driving disk, but it has worked loose again. Have tried the hacksaw blade as shims trick and the JB weld trick and the JB weld AND hacksaw blade shim trick. Am considering MIG welding build up and grinding it down to fit. Any other ideas before we commit this sin short of new crank? Really not looking forward to changing out crank. This is a GOOD running tractor. Thanx in advance.

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Leger

02-16-2000 20:12:02




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 Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Jeff H, 02-15-2000 16:47:32  
We used a two part thread locking compound on oil field tool joints, when made up, you better hope you never have to take it apart. We would have to use hyd. tongs to break it out. I will soon try it to repair a loose Model 60 flywheel. Will post results later.



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JeffH

02-18-2000 08:10:33




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 Re: Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Leger, 02-16-2000 20:12:02  
If at first you don't succeed, try something drastic!!!! Hope it works!! Will you be able to heat it and get it off?



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Gerald M

02-16-2000 16:13:48




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 Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Jeff H, 02-15-2000 16:47:32  
Hi! Been there done that,so I know what you are going through. I welded splines on my 60 about 3 yrs.ago with 3/32" stainless rod at low temp setting,didnt overheat crank.Still have to retighten drive disk 2 or 3 times a year.Welding is only a temp. fix!!! I've got another crank that I'm going to put in, but waiting to do that when it needs new rings,etc. good luck.



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Jeff H

02-16-2000 17:48:47




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 Re: Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Gerald M, 02-16-2000 16:13:48  
Same here on the rings, but I just reringed mine, it was still the original set I think, at least the second set. My Dad bought the tractor @66 from original owner and we NEVER had to pull head! If these rings last that long then I'll be 80+years old before it needs another set and my son will change them!!! Thanx everybody, it is appreciated!!



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Frank B

02-15-2000 19:07:50




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 Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Jeff H, 02-15-2000 16:47:32  
Jeff, I know what you are going through. My dad has a 60 with the same problem and we have done all that you and Clooney mentioned. In all honesty I know its a job but you may want to pull the crank and get the driving disk end redone at a machine shop or put in another crank. We havent done it yet but should. You do have to keep checking the tightness on the disk but it will eventually work loose again. Good luck.

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JeffH

02-16-2000 05:53:36




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 Re: Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Frank B, 02-15-2000 19:07:50  
Hey, by the way what's a good standard crank going for and where can I get one close to the Bootheel of Missouri Thanx



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clooney

02-15-2000 17:38:54




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 Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to Jeff H, 02-15-2000 16:47:32  
Jeff, you have a difficult problem to solve, once the crankshaft wears it is almost impossible to stop from reoccuring without welding & machining the crank and or the driving disk. When the splines wear they not only wear on the top they also wear on the sides, so even if you shim the drive disk to the crank to help the press fit it will still have lateral play in the splines. If you don't remove both press & rotational play it will come loose again. You might try calling "Dengler's" 513-423-0706, they are handling drive disks for the "B" that are under size & have wider splines, maybe they have or are getting the same for the 60. Whatever you decide to do, including welding, check it quite often to make sure it is tight. Loc-tite carries a product called "quick metal" for repairing splines that will fill a gap up to .020" & a shear strength of 4000 lbs at 300* that we use to make temporary repairs on splines & worn shafts, it works good for a while but will usually come loose after prolonged use.

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Jeff H

02-16-2000 05:50:58




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 Re: Re: 60 crankshaft in reply to clooney, 02-15-2000 17:38:54  
Have already got a drive disk from Dengler's and it worked for a little while but it worked loose too. I think we're going to try the weld, got a good welder thinks he can do it with a MIG hopefully it won't change temper too much. What about building up and then using the LOC TITE product for fill in? Can you still heat it to get the disk off later? I appreciate the followups.



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