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1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW

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BOB G.

02-16-2008 17:01:18




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I have a 1963 4010 gas. It has a new, fully charged battery and the battery and starter connections are bright and tight. The problem is that is cranks very slowly. The tractor starts but it barely turns-over. Sometimes it sounds as though it is going to die, then it fires-up at the last second. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it to crank better? Thanks for your time.




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Texasmark

02-17-2008 08:56:07




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
Agree on all of the suggestions.

Also, it is winter time and batteries are lowest and oil viscosity is highest.

Have Auto Zone check the batteries cca. Need 200A or so to get that baby to rolling over.

Remove all your connections (in addition to those recommended herein) and shine em up nice and brite, including the lead to lead connections at the battery and put them back together nice and tight.

I had a 4010D that I bought very used, and the owner had one trolling motor deep cycle battery that he used for power, of all things. Judging from the looks of it he had succesfully used it for a long time. TM batteries aren't supposed to put out that kind of current, but this one apparently did.

I redid the starting loop after purchasing. I built a battery box adjacent to the starter and put 2ea 950 cca size 31 truck batteries (wired in parallel for 12v) in it with 00 wires directly to the starter. Cleaned up the wiring and starter case (grounds) as mentioned. I guarantee you , any day of the year I could hit that baby and within 15-20 seconds that baby was roaring to life.

I'd clean everything up and have the battery checked before redoing the starter. But I have had one go out with worn out brushes and that's what happens when the brushes get short.

Good luck,

Mark

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Mike Aylward

02-17-2008 06:12:02




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
Bob, if it comes to this, you can replace your starter with one from an LP tractor. When I was a parts manager this was commonly done. The LP starters were built heavier and worked much better than the gas starters. We never kept the gas starters on hand, just the LP"s. HTH, Mike



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NE IA

02-16-2008 20:17:57




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
Take the starter off and clean both surfaces of the mounting flanges. This is a connection for your ground, just as important as the battery connections.

Another contact point often overlooked is everyone cleans the battery connections, but where it grounds needs cleaning, and where it connects to the starter as well.



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msb

02-16-2008 19:42:34




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
Could be the bleed off hole in the priority valve has plugged up. Try rocking the steering wheel when cranking the engine. Also drop the 3 point and set the lever to raise before cranking so the hydraulic pump is not trying to build pressure.



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Dairy Farmer in WI

02-16-2008 18:26:33




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
sounds like a dieing starter. mine did that this summer except mine is a diesel. it kept cranking slower everytime i started it then the starter puked. try getting a re-built starter or re-build it yerself.
DF in WI



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Gerald J.

02-16-2008 17:52:13




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  
Be sure the centrifugal advance in the distributor has stuck advanced. That will slow cranking.

Gerald J.



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long green line man

02-16-2008 17:30:30




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 Re: 1963 4010 CRANKS SLOW in reply to BOB G., 02-16-2008 17:01:18  

Disasenbly starter, clean it, put in new brush set, new brass bearings, both ends, assemble & try it.



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