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John Deere 60 head gasket

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630man

01-08-2008 20:37:03




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I installed a new head gasket on My 60 that i am restoring. I torqued down the head twice. Now when i got the tractor running it seeps from the bottom of the gasket. I have warmed it up twice and retorqued it and it still leaks. Does any body have a answer for a quick fix on how to stop the leak.
thanks in advance John




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Mike M

01-09-2008 10:51:38




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
I don't know what type of head gasket you used,but I have NEVER been impressed with the ones sold for these tractors. Those tin sandwich gaskets are not very good. They used to be made alot better,had asbestos in the center and it would soak in water and soften and seal any tiny imperfections or machine marks they also used to roll crimp over ALL the ports not just the center. Sometimes on some engines though the ports didn't exactly match and that crimped area around some of the water ports would not get completely crushed to fit.

A better solution today may be to try a gasket made by Lubbock Gaskets in TX. They custom make them for an exact fit and use a composite that does not have the tin on the outside just like about all other modern head gaskets are made like.

If you are confident your head and block are true and clean and have been retorqued and you still get seepage when left setting then you may want to try some bar's leak and then go work it good and long. I had a B that did this and was able to get it stopped up. What can happen is those head gaskets are hard fibre in the middle and can have problems letting the antifreeze wick up through them.

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Earl - IL

01-09-2008 07:01:20




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
630man, If you do it exactly like Mike said to , it should solve your problem if your head & block are flat. I mean within .0015 -.002. Your old (original)gasket will give you a clue of what is going on.



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Kemper

01-09-2008 05:42:18




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
With this type of common problem there is no need to pull the block and have it trued,unless you are overhauling it, I have used the same procedure as Mike A,works great!



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Mike Aylward

01-09-2008 05:12:59




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
630man, the late A's and 60's were prone to this type of leak. Here is the way I do it, which is a modification of the way Deere said to do it in a Service Bulletin. First, I would get another head gasket. When you install the new head gasket I use #3 Permatex on the outside verical rails of the gasket. I have not been overly impressed with the copper head gasket products. Put the Permatex on both sides of the gasket on these outside vertical rails ONLY. Do not get any on the fire ring. Start torquing your head at about 40 lbs. or so and go in TEN lb. increments. I have done this on many late A's and 60's and have not had a leaker yet. I've even done it on high compression pulling tractors with the same result. HTH. Mike

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GeorgiaHayFarmer

01-09-2008 04:44:22




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
You could machine the surfaces and this will probably help along with a number of other solutions. When installing a head gasket and head, coat the gasket on both sides with some permatex copper spray, let it get tacky or film over. Make sure every part of the machined surfaces are clean and scraped with a razor blade or what have ya. Then clean the surfaces with some acetone to get any oily film deposits off of the surfaces. This will help with adhesion to the gasket. Even though the metal is probably oil soaked, clean it with some acetone anyway. Both the bottom of the head and top of the cylinder block. Put it together, torque in sequence and while doing so you can also step up in torque values to your goal of say 100 foot pounds. So you could tighten in sequence hand tight plus a grunt. Then torque to 75 foot pound then finally torque to 100 foot pounds or whatever your tractor calls for. I have never had one leak yet from doing this type of procedure so this is what I am sticking with for right now. I think the books usually say start in the middle and work your way to the outside bolts in sequence. When you use the copper coat spray you will notice a small amount around the outside edge of the gasket after getting the tractor hot. My two cents...

Scott

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buickanddeere

01-08-2008 20:42:53




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 Re: John Deere 60 head gasket in reply to 630man, 01-08-2008 20:37:03  
Machine the block square, machine the head square, new grade 8 studs/hardened washers/ new grade 8 nuts, JD head gasket and a wee smear of Permatex. There ain't no quick, cheap & easy fixes.



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