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820 Mannheim

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Dan Etherton

02-05-2000 10:13:14




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Last spring I purchased an 820 3-cylider tractor to take care of 5 acres. I don't know much about tractors and am curious about the value of the machine. The sheet metal is excellent, it has fresh paint and new decals. Rubber is fair and it leaks a little oil. All in all, a hard working, reliable tractor. Ser# 14957, built in 1968.




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darryl

02-07-2000 06:01:28




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 Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-05-2000 10:13:14  
I have one and find it to be a great utility tractor. I've run a bailer with it, and it is excellent with a 6 foot brush hog. Mine has one fault, it has no power steering. Steers great, but I'd like to put a loader on it. Probably need power steering for that.



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Dan Etherton

02-07-2000 17:07:15




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 Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to darryl, 02-07-2000 06:01:28  
Mine has no power steering either, but my right arm is now stronger than it ever was(thanks to the spinner on the steering wheel)! I pull a 5" bushhog and also use a 5' box blade with it.

Thanks for your feedback.



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Linwood

02-05-2000 17:18:14




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 Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-05-2000 10:13:14  
Don't see many of them here, but I saw one at auction last summer sold for $4000, about the same price they sold for new. Same engine as the 1020, except I think they were all diesels,had open center hydraulics, power steering optional,older style transmission.They were made from 1968-1975, 34 hp., good city farmer tractor.



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Dan Etherton

02-05-2000 20:46:35




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 Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Linwood, 02-05-2000 17:18:14  
Thanks Linwood,

The tractor you mentioned at auction, what condition was it in?



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Dwayne

02-05-2000 15:06:16




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 Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-05-2000 10:13:14  
1968 ? did not know they made 820's in 68



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Dan Etherton

02-05-2000 20:04:25




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 Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dwayne, 02-05-2000 15:06:16  
I have learned that 820 3-cylinder diesels were manufactured at John Deere Werkes in Mannheim, W. Germany from 1968 to 1973. Hence the nickname, "Mannheim Tractor"(here in the south, anyway). The data plate is indeed in the German language. And, incidently, the data plate on the engine indicates that it was built in France!

The only other information I have been able to find is that PTO output is 31 hp.

Any other data that anyone can share would sure be helpful. After all, I'm just a former city slicker with my first John Deere!

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RonMC

02-07-2000 23:05:17




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 Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-05-2000 20:04:25  
Have to re-post, have a little info. My book says 820 made '68-'72, available diesel only. 1020, 1520, and 2020 had gas option, all imported units had shell fenders, Europe models had full fenders. Canada imported 920, 1120, and 2120, so there may be some of those around as well.Specialized Europe models included orchard and vineyard versions such as 1020-VU. Don't know if this is the kind of stuff you're looking for, but it's free !

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looking for Stan in Raleigh Durham area!!!!!!!!!!

07-13-2002 19:37:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to RonMC, 02-07-2000 23:05:17  
I spoke with you about an 1120 about a month ago. I live in Jackson, MS but am in the Raleigh area right now and would maybe like to meet up with you and see some of your old tractors.

thanks,
David Jones



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Dan Etherton

02-08-2000 17:25:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to RonMC, 02-07-2000 23:05:17  
RonMC,

Thanks for the feedback. Any information is appreciated as I have no manuals on this tractor. I am particularly interested in tabulated data such as fluid capacities & types, maintenance intervals, and does and don'ts. My local dealership is slow in obtaining the manuals for me.



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Steamer

02-07-2000 12:17:01




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 Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-05-2000 20:04:25  
The 1020 was a Dubuque, Iowa design. It was done with the idea of being made in several other plants around the world. The 820 and 1520 were derivitives of the 1020. The 1020 and 1520 were amde in both Dubuque and Mannheim. The 820 was Mannheim only. The 820 is bascially a 1020 with smaller wheels. The 1520 is larger all the way around, like a 1020 on steriods.

The engines were made either in Dubuque or Saran, France. Eventaully, all the smaller 3 and 4 cylinders were built in Saran. The model lived on into the 1976 model year as the 830. There is no real difference in the 830/1030 over the respective 20 series, but the larger machines were changed in 1973 and the little ones were renumbered to fit into the series.

When the 40 series came out, the 1030 got more displacement and wound up as the 2040, with the 1530 getting the same treatment and becoming the 2240. The 830 size was then dropped to be replaced by a whole lineup of Yanmar built machines.

I see decent condition 820 running in the $5-6k range around here (Raleigh, NC), with some folks asking in the $8k range. There is a large demand for landscape tractors around here, so the prices tend to be inflated.

I was looking for one last summer (820/1020), but wasn't thrilled with the idea of spending $6k for a well-used machine. I decided to go to JD and buy a new 4500 instead, with many more features, plus being new. Of course, that cost more than two 820's ($18k), but to me it was worth the cost (I love that power-shift reverser transmission).

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Dan Etherton

02-07-2000 17:15:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Steamer, 02-07-2000 12:17:01  
Steamer,

Thanks for your response. The only real problem with this tractor is a leaky rear main seal. I bought it, being completely ignorant of anything larger than a 42" Murray! It starts easily and overall is as sound as a dollar. I gave 3450 for it with the bushhog (in North Mississippi). I have worked the daylights out of it clearing a couple of acres and it just begs for more. Can you recommend any sources for publications on this tractor?
Thanks again for the feedback and history of this model

Thanks again

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steamer

02-08-2000 15:26:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-07-2000 17:15:43  
Yeah, those seals do that after a while. I had a 1520 at one time, and it did that, too. In my case, the 1520 was a bit too large for my needs. I sold it and went to using a 1959 430w (which I still have) which was a better size.

Eventually, I wanted to add a loader, but the 430w has manual steering which would be very difficult to use with a a full loader (to say the least). That got me searching for a 820 or a 1020 with power steering and live PTO. After nearly a year of responding to ads in the paper, I got tired of looking at used machines and got the new 4500.

I would contact JD publications and pick up three manuals for your machine: The operators, service and parts manuals. The JD pubs have all the info you'd ever likely need, and aren't priced all that high compared to the I&T manuals (another good source of data, but they pull parts of sections of the JD manuals and combine them into one, smaller volume). The parts manual may seem somewhat useless, but it has the neatest exploded-view drawings in it that really help you understand exactly how everything fits together. Plus, the part numbers are still useful at the dealer's. JD has changed all the numbers over time, but their computer systems perform an automatic cross-reference that makes sure you get the proper part.

Sounds like you picked up a decent machine for your needs at a decent price!

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RonMC Hi Steamer

02-07-2000 22:54:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Dan Etherton, 02-07-2000 17:15:43  
Try the "Big book of J-D tractors", by Don MacMillan. Does your tractor have a mid-pto ?
Steamer, am heading 500 miles north on Fri to ski and sort out the mystery crawler with the 2nd hunter. Will post if I can learn anything.



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Dan Etherton

02-08-2000 17:31:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to RonMC Hi Steamer, 02-07-2000 22:54:39  
Please define "Mid PTO" I'm not sure what I understand.



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Steamer

02-08-2000 15:12:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to RonMC Hi Steamer, 02-07-2000 22:54:39  
I'm curious to find out about it too. Have a safe trip!



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RonMC

02-08-2000 19:19:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to Steamer, 02-08-2000 15:12:17  
Hi - was going to scan from a brochure, but looks like my wife has put some of my books somewhere ??? and she's out at the moment. Mid-pto is pto coming off the rear of the trans, but facing forward just in front of the diff. Used for belly-mounted implements such as 5 foot finish mower, some sickle mowers, etc. The mower is the main one, and can be left mounted while using the 3-point for other things as it picks up to 8" ground clearance. I think it's an option on most of the newer compacts, and a few of the smaller units. I'm e-mailing a shot of my smallest toy digging a pond at my brother's place. Smaller than an 820, but great for tight spots.

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Dan Etherton

02-09-2000 20:03:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 820 Mannheim in reply to RonMC, 02-08-2000 19:19:27  
My tractor does have a second PTO in the form of a pulley on the bottom of the transmission forward of the differential. Is this what your talking about?



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