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Allanj in Denve

12-20-2007 22:21:16




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After 40+ years of making do with shade trees, carports and sharing shop space with various bicycles and other stuff, I am finally getting a dedicated workshop. I plan to set up a woodworking shop with recessed lighting. I have 8+ foot ceilings and want to be able to swing a 4' X 8' sheet over without turning it sideways. I will use a chunk of the floor space to work on my 47 and 50 A tractors. I have 100 amp service run and am seeking advice about what type of recessed lights to install. Since I live in Colorado, it does get a bit chilly some winter days, and need something that will fire up on cold mornings. My shop measures 24' X 28". Since I am now eligible for Social Security, I need it to be bright, bright inside. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Allanj in Denver

12-21-2007 21:45:56




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
Thanks to all who replied. F-I-T that is a great shop and 2cylinderlp that is a very clever use of resources. I will insulate and paint the brightest white available. Again, thanks to all - wish you and yours the Best Christmas ever - Allanj



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greenmisterg

12-21-2007 12:14:54




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
WOW!!! What a set up!! I've only got enough room in my garage for the 2 cars and my 51 G!!If I had that much room I'd use a flash light and NEVER compalin!! LOL LOL!!!



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machinery-man

12-21-2007 11:13:22




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
F.I.T. mighty nice looking shop...look like you've got room for mannnnn y more tractors....



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F-I-T

12-21-2007 12:59:00




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to machinery-man, 12-21-2007 11:13:22  
I built the shop in '05, but it has taken me a long time to make improvements since I generally travel each week on a coast-to-coast project. I'm just trying to get it in shape for when I have a little more time to spend there. The office is a heated and cooled area with an instant on electric 12kw tankless water hater, which I can also use with my power washer. A little heat un the water sure makes it clean and rinse better! The sliding door opens to 8' wide so I can roll smaller things into the A/C and work. My 855 or an engine stand just fits.

I'm thinking of adding a lean-to on the back side for greasy projects in waiting. Also considering using that space for a pull-through paint booth. Since most paint projects are not mobile a pull through would be handy. Might install a paint bench on the inside of the north wall for small items, with the venting tied to the booth system on the other side of the wall. All it takes is time and money :p

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F-I-T

12-21-2007 10:46:06




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
I installed 8 two bulb 48" units in my office area and I used the newer high output tubes. You get quite a bit more lumens and less heat. They start nice cold, but since I am in north Florida, the coldest they have had to deal with has been maybe 20* F. They were Lithonia fixtures. Home Depot had the best price.

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In the main shop area I mounted 8' HO Lithonia two-bulb fixtures at around 16 or so feet.

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They start nice cold, too, and have no hum. The HO T-8 bulds are pretty energy efficient these days. Reflective surfaces always help.

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Pretty decent light at 9 PM in the evening.

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49

12-21-2007 09:33:05




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
Use 48" florscent lamps with cold starting ballast.



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machinery-man

12-21-2007 07:51:02




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
I'm not much on the flourescents but like the new engery saving coil type bulbs. I can easily install or change with a grabber in my 30x40 building. The day light bulbs after warm up are really bright...use 100 watt with 8 bulbs...



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2cylinderlp

12-21-2007 07:43:14




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
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Maybe you would be interested in what I did with mine. My shop I have facing south. I put hinged panels with greenhouse plastic in front of the overhead doors. In the winter when the sun is low in the sky I get all the light and warmth in that I need on sunny days. I close the doors one hour before sundown and retain the heat. In the summer months the sun is high in the sky and it works well to let light in, but not much heat, and keep the bugs out. I can control the overhead doors remotely through the internet.

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C DC

12-21-2007 07:41:09




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
I use four 40" (I think) florescent lights, 2 bulb units. One across each end of the work space, and one length wise down each side. I got them free out of a gutted warehouse. They start up even when cold, but the colder it is, it seems to take a while longer to get to full brightness.(just a few minuets though) You can get "daylight" type bulbs. They do not use a lot of power and do a good job. Mine are not recessed however. The work area is 20" by 24". I also use a couple of portable lights to light a specific area better when necessary.

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J Schwiebert

12-21-2007 06:32:41




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
Insulate it well!. We have 18 inches in the ceiling and 6 inches in the walls. We have 2 types of lights. We put 4 bulbs in so we could have lights quick like mainly to run the machinery in at night to see by. We were going with another type of light but found some 8 foot flouresent lights on sale so we are mounting then high on the wall (14 foot ceiling) Do paint and or use some white metal siding on the inside. It makes a huge differenece!.

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Mike M

12-21-2007 05:15:47




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
I picked up a bunch of the 4 bulb flouresent fixtures used that came out of a banks drop style ceiling. These make good light and will start when fairly cold 40-50 degrees ? I haven't tried much colder as I keep some heat in there at all times to help prevent rusting.



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johns48jdb

12-21-2007 04:34:19




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 Re: OT - Shop Lighting in reply to Allanj in Denver, 12-20-2007 22:21:16  
painting the walls and ceiling white will help more than anything. dust settling on anything is what causes rust. dust absorbs moisture and from there its all down hill. i would close off a portion to keep my tractors in and even then cover them with a cloth topped off with a piece of plastic just big enough to cover the main parts of the tractor and not go all the way to th engine with it. sorry, no help with types of bulbs.

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