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Info on 801 3 point hitches and 24B planters

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JimW

12-16-2007 12:24:39




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Hello, I need to know the difference between a 800 and 801, 3 point hitch. I have a John Deere 70D I would like to put a 3 point on. I also have 2, 24-B unit planters with corn & fertilizers boxes I would like to mount on a John Deere tool bar, can anyone tell me what # tool bar I should be looking for or this like trying to find the needle in the Hay stack. Thanks in advance for all the help Jim

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800 series hitches

12-19-2007 13:31:08




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 Re: Info on 801 3 point hitches and 24B planters in reply to JimW, 12-16-2007 12:24:39  
Dean's nice pics will explain just look around there....



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wilamayb

12-16-2007 19:27:51




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 Re: Info on 801 3 point hitches and 24B planters in reply to JimW, 12-16-2007 12:24:39  
Well,,, no one else is gonna dive into this, so I'll make it short and sweet, leaving some for you to figure out.

There are actually 3 versions of the hitch. 800, 800A, and 801.

The 801 is most noticeable because it has different axle mounts for the top links. The mounts have a rocker assy. and push rods that travel up to the crank arm to act as draft control of sorts. I'm not qualified to comment on how well it works as I have never pulled a plow with the 800, so I cant give a comparison. I've only used my 801. It works so-so, but certainly not as well as the three point on my 20 and 30 series tractors.

All of the hitches have a very similar appearance, but they do have many different parts including the length of the top links, casting numbers on cast pieces, etc, etc.

The 800 is easily identified as having a large crank handle for adjustment of the RH lift link.

There are still a few places that offer a parts manual for the hitch.

Im including a link to a place that has a manual that is fairly inexpensive.

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Pete in MD

12-16-2007 19:13:23




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 Re: Info on 801 3 point hitches and 24B planters in reply to JimW, 12-16-2007 12:24:39  
The 800, 800A, & 801 are "basically" the same. Any one of them is correct for your 70.

The axle mounting brackets for the upper links, "top link",on the 801 are different than the 800/800A. They transfer weight from the plow to the rear wheels when draft increases due to heavy ground and thereby increase traction w/o decreasing plow depth. The 801 is known as "Traction-Trol Hitch".

Not sure on the Tool Bar but the No.9 Tool Carrier will handle any implement that attaches to a 2 1/4 inch tool bar provided the tractor's hydraulic system can handle it.

Pete

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NW MO Poppers

12-17-2007 08:56:01




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 Re: Info on 801 3 point hitches and 24B planters in reply to Pete in MD, 12-16-2007 19:13:23  
Actually, only one of the hitches is correct for the 70 diesel. The 801. The 800 was made in 1953 alone. The 800A was made from 1954 through mid 1955. The 801, which had "draft" capabilities (sort of), finished out 1955 and was made thru the 1960's as an add-on for the early two cylinders. All of this is according the the deere parts manual. Most 70D were made in 1955-1956, meaning the 801 would be the "proper" hitch. As far as how they work, none of them are as good as the 20 and 30 series three points, and the "draft" concept of the 801 is crude, at best. BTW, I have all three types on various tractors, so I think I can offer a fair judgement.

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