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110 John Deere carb leaking

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Kelster

12-07-2007 11:57:18




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We've put new gaskets, new float and a new needle and still have a leak around the bowl. Any help to stopping this leak? The leak is coming from the top rim of the bowl.




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Earl - IL

12-07-2007 19:36:10




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 11:57:18  
You have very good advice below. I might add to check the bowl vent. Earl



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machinery-man

12-07-2007 13:46:14




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 11:57:18  
leak would have to come from needle valve too high...I have a 110 also and you want to be sure turn fuel off after use..those needle valves generally will not hold over a period of time....



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Kelster

12-07-2007 14:23:30




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to machinery-man, 12-07-2007 13:46:14  
How do we go about lowering the needle value? This is so tough, being that my boyfriend has the tractor at his place and I'm kinda the secretary on this job. (lol) I ask the questions, get answers, then he seems to have more questions. LOL



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F-I-T

12-07-2007 12:42:30




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 11:57:18  
Kelster:

The float setting might still be too high, or the float needle/seat is not sealing. That's about the only way for fuel to rise high enough to spill over the carburetor bowl. If you have a bad bowl gasket and you are operating on rough ground so that the fuel level is splashing around a bit, sometimes they will seep around that seam. But if the engine is sitting level, the fuel level should be below the seam where you have the leak. You might want to remove the carb and recheck the float needle and seat, and the integrity of the float. It's possible that the float is hanging up and not allowing it to "float" into it's needle sealed off position. If you turn the carb over so that the float falls against the float needle (the full "up" position), and you blow into the fuel inlet, it should not pass air if it is sealing properly.

I'd look for a flaw in the needle seat area, the float for a pin hole, floating rubbing on the pivot pin and hanging up, or debris under the seat area. It's an age-old problem that every one has to solve at one time or another.

Frank

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Kelster

12-07-2007 13:02:46




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to F-I-T, 12-07-2007 12:42:30  
If the seal isn't sealing, how do we fix that? If it's something to do with the needle, how do we fix that? Do we need to buy a new float/needle?



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F-I-T

12-07-2007 13:20:51




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 13:02:46  
The needle seat, where it screws into the casting, should have a gasket there. That is the first source of a leak. Then the needle has to sit into the needle and seal. If you turn the carb upside down and blow, and it does not seal, then I would replace the needle and seat provided there is no known crack or fissure in the casting. Check closely, as over the years there is a good chance that someone has over-tightened a fitting and actually created a crack in the carb body. In that case you have a real problem.

Shake the float to feel if there is any fuel inside the float which could cause it to sink. Next would be to check the float for a pin hole by submerging it in a pan of hot water. If it is leaking, the air inside will expand and bubbles will rise out of the float at the point of the flaw. Solder repair the float if is leaking, or just buy a new one.

Once again, make sure that the float is swinging freely.

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John T

12-07-2007 12:39:23




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 11:57:18  
If the float was rising (no holes) n the needle n seat did its job she shouldnt fill that high in the bowl, is it a brass/steel tip or neoprene needle?? Sometimes on the brass you may help it seat in a lil by a light tap on top to seat it into the seat. Id check the lil gaskets n play with the needle to seat mating n determine if thats where shes overfilling or if its another problem

JT



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Kelster

12-07-2007 13:04:17




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to John T, 12-07-2007 12:39:23  
We have a neoprene needle. If indeed that's the problem, how do we go about fixing it? Basically, I guess I'm asking, what can we do to fix the problem?



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John T

12-07-2007 14:10:27




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 Re: 110 John Deere carb leaking in reply to Kelster, 12-07-2007 13:04:17  
If its the neoprene tip then theres no tapping n seating like I mentioned regarding if it were steel. Make sure its sliding up n down in the seat cylinder nice n smooth with no bindings and that theres a lil gasket where the seat assembly screws down into the bore and theres a lil soft float steel tab you can probably bend to set the float level. If no instructions I set them so the needle shuts off right about when the float is level. If you rig up a lil hose you can blow your breath into where gas would normally enter from the tank then lift the lil float up n down n hear when it shuts the air flow off when the needle tip fits/mates into the seat and the float is about level.

How the needle fits n holds to the float is a lil tricky, some have a lil hair spring while others fit into a slot but the needle cant be hanging up or binding just rising up n down nice n smooth as the float level rises with the gas.

If its a gasket or bore problem its hard to tell ya how to fix it sittin here.

JT

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