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#8 vs #5 mower???

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58401

12-07-2007 07:39:49




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Can anyone tell me the difference between the two? I was told the #5 was better than the 8 but how and why? Thanks.




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James Howell

12-07-2007 11:45:44




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to 58401, 12-07-2007 07:39:49  
Everyone has made some very good comparisons between the two mowers.

Based on the number of years of production, 34/35 through 56, there will probably be more #5 mowers still

available for work or parts.

The #5 mower also had 3 cutter bars available: 5�, 6�, and 7�, the most common being 7�.

I have three #5 mowers, and would buy a #8 if one came available in my area.

Either mower will do a good job for you.

Hope this helps.

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Big M

12-08-2007 04:51:51




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to James Howell, 12-07-2007 11:45:44  
I have a mostly complete JD #8 for sale. (needs pitman stick) Located near Salina KS. Digital pictures available upon request. Would like fair market price.



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almrm

12-07-2007 11:17:21




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to 58401, 12-07-2007 07:39:49  
My dad purchased a #8 mower the year I was born. In addition to statements already made, the #8 was designed wider to the begining of the cutterbar for wider and larger tire tractors. Some had to move the wheel to cultivate and mow with the same tractor with the #5. The #8 came three ways - lever lift, cable lift of the rock shaft, and cylinder lift. Dad selected cable lift which was the lowest cost and best in his opinion. I still have the mower today and it works great. One other stat on the #8, it was the first implement from any manufacturer to have a nylon bushing slip type rotating safety guard on the power shaft. Deere gave the patent rights to all manufacturers free of charge to improve the safety of the farming community.

Mark

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Mike Aylward

12-07-2007 09:13:57




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to 58401, 12-07-2007 07:39:49  
The No. 8 mower is a much improved mower over the No. 5. The No. 8 will out cut a No. 5 due to the stroke of the sickle being more than the distance between the guards. Also, on the No. 8 when the sickle trips back it does not take the whole mower back with it. On a No. 5 when this happens there is a pretty sharp angle in the driveline. This can cause problems later on. If you have a choice take the No. 8. I've run both and the newer mower is better. My dad used to tell the story of a good neighbor of ours that traded a 5 for an 8. He started mowing with an A tractor is fourth gear and it mowed great. He thought "I wonder if it will mow in fifth?" It did without any trouble. Now he was really curious and wondered if it would work in road gear. It did. He said it was amazing how that mower would cut. Obviously, he didn't mow that way for a number of reasons but he always said there was no comparison between the two mowers, even when they were new. The No. 5 established a good reputation that carries down to us after all these years. The No. 8 is just that much better but was not made as long. Hope this helps. Mike

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machinery-man

12-07-2007 08:48:36




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to 58401, 12-07-2007 07:39:49  
Not true wouldn't have been a need for the 8. The 5 had a mechanical lift, 8 was set for hydraulic cylinder after power trol came out. Basic machine similar, trailing wheel, pitmans, ie. #9 was mounted 3 point machine. Farmers like the trailing wheel as would run the countour but a pain to corner. Guess its all relevant, I like the 350 the best.



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RalphinWI

12-07-2007 11:27:52




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to machinery-man, 12-07-2007 08:48:36  
I'm not sure what a "pain to corner' would be. We could cut square corners with a John Deere A all day long with either the # 5 or # 8. Hooking it to an 8N was something else. Both mowers and the A were also great for trimming under the electric fence. As one appraoched the post you made a gentle turn to the left, then just as the mower was ready to gnaw the post off, turn sharply to the right, which would pull the bar from under the wire. As soon as one was clear of the post, straighten out. The 8 N wasn't worth jack for trimming weeds under the electric fence either.

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Ford 312

12-07-2007 09:18:48




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to machinery-man, 12-07-2007 08:48:36  
My dad purchased a new #5 JD mower in 1951. It had factory original fittings for a hydraulic cylinder. At that time he had a JD A that had been converted from power lift to power trol and we used the hydraulic cylinder on the #5 mower. I mowed a lot of hay with that mower.



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ronco

12-07-2007 09:03:04




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 Re: #8 vs #5 mower??? in reply to machinery-man, 12-07-2007 08:48:36  
The #5 could also be equipped with a hydraulic cylinder.



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