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C DC

11-26-2007 18:32:00




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I started the B up for the last time this evening before starting disassembly. Now the real adventure begins! I am not a sheet metal worker. How bad is bad when it comes to rusted and bent up? I realize there will be a dozen different opinions here, but that is what I"m asking for. I"d just as soon buy new sheet metal than wrestle with the stuff on the tractor now. Is that acceptable in the restoration world?
Has anyone sent the sheet metal away to someone else to work on? I have seen some great looking paint jobs in pictures here. I don"t think I have the skills right now to pull that off.
Thanks in advance for your comments.

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Rusty wheel

12-07-2007 20:05:39




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to C DC, 11-26-2007 18:32:00  
Good evening. In reply to your concerns about restoring sheet metal, I prefer to take it to a body shop. The reason being that I don't have the equipment needed to do a proper job on large peices.I have restored a 49 MT, my first, a 51 G, a 35 B and a 37 A, and a 40-W, my last. I definately would not recommend sand blasting the sheet metal. The blasting stretches the metal and it won't fit right. Also, if sheet metal isn't prepared right, every flaw in it will show up. On the other hand, you can't hardly make a mistake painting castings. A good primer coat makes all the difference in the finished job. Good luck with your project, I hope it turns out nice. Take care and merry christmas.....RW

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Rusty wheel

12-07-2007 20:13:47




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to Rusty wheel, 12-07-2007 20:05:39  
One other thing I would like to mention. The first tractor I did had hardener in the paint to give it a shiny automotive finish. I wouldn't recommend that either because the paint is so brittle, it chips off pretty easy around the fasteners. Also, John Deere didn't come from the factory with that kind of finish, but that's just me. This hobby is supposed to be fun and you should do your tractor any way you want. Happy painting..... ..... ..RW

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CalJim

11-26-2007 22:34:45




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to C DC, 11-26-2007 18:32:00  
I believe most would agree that Bondo and tractors don't mix. All that vibration and lack of suspension and it wants to crack. There are some good aftermarket hoods out there, not cheap though. CalJim



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patsdeere

11-26-2007 23:14:24




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to CalJim, 11-26-2007 22:34:45  
For a working tractor I would agree that bondo isn't the greatest. However, for a trailer king I don't think it will be a problem. I am not talking lots but just a little here and there. If it fails on this one, I won't use it again.



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johns48jdb

11-26-2007 19:40:48




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to C DC, 11-26-2007 18:32:00  
my second cousin got a body shop to do his sheet metal. its was high for me but he had the money and it did look real good. the trick to making paint shine is using a wet look hardener for the paint. don't use anything but jd paint either. under the yellow stuff use jd buff colored primer. its got a yellow tint to it and it really makes the yellow look good. i will tell you how to do your wheels since you've left the door open here. do what ever your going to do to get the rims ready to paint. paint the inside and the side of the rim that is going to be next to the seat, but don't paint the outside of the rim yet. mount the tire, but don't inflate it right now. mount the tire and rim back on the tractor and tighten down where you want it. tie the tire back away fron the rim and then paint the outside of the rims. after its dry then inflate your tires and you want have any bad looking places on your rims or the bolts this way. sounds complicated a little i guess but it works.

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patsdeere

11-26-2007 19:48:59




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to johns48jdb, 11-26-2007 19:40:48  
I will have to remember that for the next tractor I work on. Thanks for the suggestion.



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THE SMOOTHED DEERES

11-27-2007 07:11:06




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to patsdeere, 11-26-2007 19:48:59  
Anytime you want a show quality finish ,you want to spray a final coat on parts and areas that are assembled and won't be hit,scracthed ,or marred by wrenches . I tape off all tires with plastic and tuck the tape next to rim and paint them mounted on tractor so you can spin them around to paint . You must be sure your area is clean and your not dropping dirt or anything else in the paint as the tire rotates .

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gitrib

11-26-2007 19:15:00




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to C DC, 11-26-2007 18:32:00  
My opinion is to do what makes you happy. Every tractor has its own peronality and every owner know what he wants. We breed good dairy cattle that make us money in the barn. Those fancy show cows do not always do that. What do you want a working tractor that you are happy with or one that really shows off in the parade.



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patsdeere

11-26-2007 18:46:37




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 Re: '48 B Last running in reply to C DC, 11-26-2007 18:32:00  
I am no expert either (and far from it). I didn't have too much to do on my sheet metal - sledge hammer to one piece and body tools to the rest. A little bondo and a little glazing compound and it turned out pretty good, better than my paint, but it is my first, so, oh well. They always say practice makes perfect.

In regards to sending it out, I do know some people that have sent it out for repair as it was way too far damaged for them to fix. They had a farmall that had a brake failure and the nose cone got totally crunched when it rolled downhill and into the corner of a building. Serves them right for having a farmall.

I personally don't see why you can't buy new, but I like knowing that I fixed the old crumpled up dented beast to something that is looking good.

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