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hub removal from axle 1941 D

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Alan Goetz

11-14-2007 15:16:48




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I have a 1941 D i have been trying to get the hub off the axle, with no luck, i have put penetrating oil on it for a week, took a 50 Ton Jack and put on it but it still won't come loose, anyone have any other thoughts? Thanks




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James Howell

11-15-2007 09:43:37




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to Alan Goetz, 11-14-2007 15:16:48  
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This method of moving stuck wheels/hubs has �so far� worked for me. I this method earlier this month to remove the left wheel on my 46A pictured above.

First thing to do is not get in a hurry. Moving wheels in or out might take some time.

Before I work on a wheel/hub/tire project for the very first time on a tractor, PB Blaster is sprayed on the axle, hub, collar, and bolts every week at least 3-4 weeks before attempting to �move� the wheel.

If you are not using the tractor, jack up the axle, rotate/turn the wheel, and spray with PB Blaster. Take a small sledge hammer and �tap� on the hub, collar, and bolts. Repeat this process several times.

The key word when using the small sledge hammer is �tap�. One of the previous owners of my 43B splintered the cast center wheel. My favorite wife spotted the cracks when we picked up the tractor. When I carefully removed the wheel, it fell apart in 2 pieces. I was fortunate enough to find another cast center wheel for only $125.

I always use a rotary grinder with a wire wheel to �brush� the axle splines on both sides of the hub. Use a grinder to remove any �mushrooms� on the end of your axle splines created by previous owners with big sledge hammers.

A log chain is threaded through the holes in the wheel. I use an old mechanical jack to �pull� the hub/wheel by applying pressure on the axle. Rotate/turn the wheel and spray with PB Blaster. Take a small sledge hammer and �tap� on the hub. Apply more pressure with your jack. Repeat this process until you can �wiggle� your wheel off by hand.

After removing the hub/wheel, you should finish brushing the axle splines. Use a small wire toothbrush to clean inside your hub.

With the axle splines and inside hub clean and shiny, you should be able to �wiggle� the wheel back on the axle. If the wheel cannot be moved by hand, I check the splines on both the axle and inside the hub for �burs� and/or �rough� spots. I will use a flat file on the axle splines only if absolutely necessary. I use a half-round file for the hub splines. Hubs are cheaper and easier to replace than axles.

If the wheel is �snug� and cannot be easily moved by hand, I use a big sledge hammer with a 12� handle and an oak block. Oak blocks are less expensive to replace than cracked hubs or cracked wheels. Believe me when I say the recoil off an oak block is far less than the recoil of a cast wheel.

Put the oak block against the hub and �hit� the oak block. Rotate the wheel and hit the oak block. Repeat this process until you position the wheel to your satisfaction.

The process described above works fine for me because it causes me no bodily harm, frightens none of the farm animals, requires no help from my favorite wife, and keeps the neighbors from hearing my lack of vocabulary.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

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jd40an

11-15-2007 10:30:45




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to James Howell, 11-15-2007 09:43:37  
Your advise how to move a difficult wheel seems sound, but I wouldn't want to be working anywhere near you with only that "mickey mouse" Handyman jack under your tractor. At the very least, put some woden "cribbing" under the drawbar frame & use a safer hydraulic jack to lift the tractor & send that piece of crap "handyman" jack to the scrap heap!!!!



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James Howell

11-15-2007 13:56:11




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to jd40an, 11-15-2007 10:30:45  
I agree with you 100% about using wooden �cribbing� under the frame or drawbar.

There is a sawmill about 10 miles from my farm and each year I get some of the �cut offs� from the railroad-tie/cross-tie mill. These oak blocks really burn good in the pot belly stove that heats one end of our home during the winter.

After my favorite wife took this picture, I did put 3 wooden oak blocks under the drawbar.

There is a wooden block wedged into the front tires and also a wooden block wedged under the right rear tire that does not appear in the photo.

Once I safely have the tractor �blocked up� and �chocked up�, then I go about whatever the job may be.

I also agree with you 100% about not having anyone near me while I am working.

This may be one reason, other than being real lucky, that I do not get seriously hurt.

Every time I get ready to do some type of work around my farm, I ask myself two questions:

1. How is what I am about to do going to kill me?
2. How is what I am about to do going to remove any of my fingers, hands, arms, toes, feet, legs, nose, eyes, ears, or head.

As I mentioned above, this may be one reason that I do not get seriously hurt.

Yes, I agree with you 100% about that "mickey mouse" Handyman jack!

The name �mickey mouse� is the polite name for this jack.

Proper etiquette on this forum prevents me from using a host of other names and terms of endearment that I have used to describe this jack.

Did you notice that the jack was �bent�? That will be story for another day.

I do appreciate you pointing out the safety issue of using a jack without properly �cribbing� the tractor.

Take a look at the link below.

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Mike M

11-15-2007 05:52:35




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to Alan Goetz, 11-14-2007 15:16:48  
Rig up a puller so you are putting equal pressure on it at both sides. I don't know how you have that jack but it may only be putting pressure on one side cocking it. then if it still doesn't move maybe try some heat while still under pressure.



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CalJim

11-14-2007 20:47:45




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to Alan Goetz, 11-14-2007 15:16:48  
Try some heat- Heat hub quickly without getting axle too hot- then squirt water on it- Lately I've found a new method...had some hubs on a 49 Bthat were going nowhere, figured I could get new ones so I took a sledge to one hoping it would break off...I actually broke it loose by banging on it inward, then it pulled off with my 1" thick plate puller. CalJim



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THE SMOOTHED DEERES

11-14-2007 15:48:51




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 Re: hub removal from axle 1941 D in reply to Alan Goetz, 11-14-2007 15:16:48  
Look in archives ? Lots of tricks in there to look at .



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