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4010 Liquid Ballast

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61-4010

09-23-2007 04:54:58




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Putting new tires on my 4010 and trying to determine how much liquid ballast to put in them. They are 18.4-34 tires. I was told they will take about 100 gallons each but I'm not keen on having that much additional weight on the rear. Should I have any issues/concerns with perhaps putting in 55 gallons each side?

Thanks for any thoughts/insight.




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jlg

09-23-2007 17:15:17




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 Re: 4010 Liquid Ballast in reply to 61-4010, 09-23-2007 04:54:58  
Around me, if you"re farming with the tractor (instead of pulling or playing) you have loaded tires. Our 4020 with 18.4/34"s had loaded tires. We"re just going to restore it so we took it out, and lost 1500 lbs doing it. I was surprised at how much weight that adds.



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Nylon4020

09-23-2007 15:34:33




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 Re: 4010 Liquid Ballast in reply to 61-4010, 09-23-2007 04:54:58  
I have a 4020 with a loader. 148 with 7 foot bucket. I have pulled only a 3 16 and needed the weight I have in the tires. 18.4 x 34. Cant remember how much fluid they take in gallons. Having the extra weight is most important for my bucket work. I dont spin tires, tear up the road or make spin ruts. I have chains on it in the winter time too. I cant live with out the weight for what I use it for. Cant hang enough iron weights on it to come close to fluid weight. Think each wheel with fluid and tires is very close to 900 pounds each. It really depends on how the tractor will be used. I did loose a rim to calcium since it was neglected bad before I got it. A good double bevel rim used was $50. As long as valves are maintained and the tube doesnt get torn...calcium is not a problem. If there is leakage, get it fixed right away and there will be no problems.

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Loren in Florida

09-23-2007 14:13:44




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 Re: 4010 Liquid Ballast in reply to 61-4010, 09-23-2007 04:54:58  
I have to agree with Hayfarmer. The same is/was true in the upper Midwest (Minnesota). If the tractors were used for tillage of any kind, they had ballast. Usually fluid in the tires. I also think CaCl has gotten a bad rap. We never had a problem with it. With good tubes in the tires, and regular maintenance around the valve stems, we never lost a rim to rust.



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Hayfarmer

09-23-2007 08:55:12




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 Re: 4010 Liquid Ballast in reply to 61-4010, 09-23-2007 04:54:58  
In my area of the country, the North West, when I worked at the JD dealership I don't think very many bid tractors, and few little ones, ever went to the field without the maximum amount of balast in the tires. They were used for pulling. I saw very few with wheel weights for some reason. Now where many of the big tractors are used mainly for hydraulic and PTO power I suspect this has not changed but really not necessary. I think it depends upon what you are going to do with the 4010. If you are going to pull it hard I would go with the ballist but I think I would go for the max. A small amount of CaCl is going to eat the wheels as much as a full load. If you plan to do a lot of road work I think the fluid makes the tires wear faster. Or you could just go with wheel weights and take them off and on as needed(yeah right)

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Gerald J.

09-23-2007 07:13:55




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 Re: 4010 Liquid Ballast in reply to 61-4010, 09-23-2007 04:54:58  
I vote for NO ballast. New tires pull well on their own compared to old hard worn tires. Liquid CaCl leaks and eats tractors for lunch.

At the worst, adding ballast later is practical. You can add any amount from 100 pounds to 1000, there's no problem with running less than 3/4 full.

Gerald J.



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