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Spark plugs for H and A

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Joe Appelget

08-21-2007 20:30:46




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Hello everyone. What are the recommended autolite plugs for a JD H and JD A? I had some trouble starting my JD H tonight, so I pulled the plugs and they were both very fouled. I have Autolite 388 in it now. I just got it from paint and took it to my local fair and didn"t run it much I did run it in 2 parades Saturday and never moved my temp gauge and that was about an hour of running each time. It has shutters on it and I plan to play with them soon to see if I can achieve 190 deg. I once heard that 190 is what these tractor should run, is that correct? What is the hottest plug I can put in it? and what about for the A? The A has autolite 386"s in it now, what should I be using?

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Joe

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Dale West

08-22-2007 16:23:12




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 Re: Spark plugs for H and A in reply to Joe Appelget, 08-21-2007 20:30:46  
I also use Autolite 386 or AC C86 plugs in most of my two cylinder tractors. For better starting and light duty use (parades etc.) I gap the plugs at .035 rather than .030. If you are going to be plowing or something like that go back to .030. This seems to work well for me.



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John T

08-22-2007 06:02:52




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 Re: Spark plugs for H and A in reply to Joe Appelget, 08-21-2007 20:30:46  
Joe, We have beat this topic to death over the years lol. Heres the deal, although its true Autolite 388 are hotter then 386 they are both resistor plugs so try maybe an Autolite 3116 which is in that heat range but NOT a resistor plug.

Duane Larson "The Spark Plug Guru" has recommendations for some of the old original plugs, try what he recommends ..... ....

Next youre correct in that keeping the temp up in the 175 to 195 range can help reduce plug fouling so play with the shutters and/or other air restrictions.

In light use to help reduce plug fouling you dont wanna run the carb any richer then necessary and you sure dont want a lot of excess black smoke out the stack so adjust n lean the carb as necessary if rich running is a problem.

You dont wanna waste any limited spark energy as heat so use wire core and NOT carbon core suppressor plug wires.

Dont run any harder to ignite controlled slower burn higher octane gas then necessary cuz it could leave excess unburned fuel deposits (i.e. fouling) on the plug. 87 octane is fine in these old very low compression tractors

Theres arguments over plug brands but in my opinion that listed above is more important then what brand of plug you use so use the hottest non resistor plug regardless of brand,,,,, ,,keep temp up to over 180,,,,, avoid long idle periods,,,,run a leaner carb,,,,use wire core plug wires,,,,, ,KEEP THE IGNITION TUNED NEAR PERFECT FOR A BRIGHT BLUE HOT SPARK..... .. A WEAK SPARK CAN CAUSE QUICKER PLUG FOULING

John T

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P Browning

08-22-2007 03:25:19




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 Re: Spark plugs for H and A in reply to Joe Appelget, 08-21-2007 20:30:46  
JOE -- Here is an excerpt from the John Deere Model "H" Restortion Guide, 2nd Ed., Chapter 7 (Electrical Systems). See also the JD-H Restoration Site (below) for additional data on the JD-H tractor. (PatB)
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SPARK PLUGS -- The "H" originally came with Champion 8Com-C plugs or Edison-Splitdorf Z-19 spark plugs, which are often available NOS from plug dealers. All plugs for the "H" are 18 mm threaded and gapped to 0.030-inches. When working field conditions as designed, basic cold to mid-heat range plugs do well. However, for extremely light, no-load operation like parades, one is probably better off with hotter plugs. As the list unfolds, beware of D23 as the plug is longer outside the chamber and may arc over to the shield. From hottest to colder, by brand we have: AUTOLITE [378, 377, 3116, & 376 (378 = D23)], AC [C88L, C88 & C87], CHAMPION [D23, D21, D18Y, UD16 & D16], and DENSO L14-U. DENSO L14-U is the same as D21 so far as heat range is concerned. Some types are becoming obsolete; thus seek New Old Stock (NOS).

CAUTION: Many cross references cite plugs not listed here. Check them out! RESISTOR type plugs are not suitable mates for your magneto!

TIP: Spark plug fouling is a major concern when operating in light duty applications. The two main ways to reduce fouling are to maintain the leanest possible settings at the carburetor, and do your best to operate the engine within a heat range of 195 to 205 degrees F (FSB 74-S, 6-15-37).

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Pappy

08-21-2007 22:55:15




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 Re: Spark plugs for H and A in reply to Joe Appelget, 08-21-2007 20:30:46  
I use Autolite 386 in my '52 A. No problems at all. Never fouled one. I am using a Delco Distributor. If you are using a magneto, your mileage may vary. Some suggest a 3116 for Magnetos.



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