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keith rausch

08-05-2007 10:58:43




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i took the generator and regulator off my 53 60 and had them rebuilt. my question is on the wiring. my regulator has three post on it.on the front one the white and black wire were on it together. the middle post had the wire from the generator small post by regulator on it. the big post at the bottom of generator is on the last or back post. is this right ? when i bought the tractor the generator was already dead. i have a 60 parts manual and the wiring set up is diff.it shows white on center post black on front post, and big post ,gen /arm on last post the little post by regulator or field goes under regulator somewhere.any help before i polarize will be appreciated. thanks

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kendak

08-06-2007 09:11:37




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to keith rausch, 08-05-2007 10:58:43  
put a alternater on & trash the gen....Kent



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Roy in georgia

08-05-2007 21:04:17




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to keith rausch, 08-05-2007 10:58:43  
the tabs on my VR and gen. were not marked so when I took the gen. I took the VR with it to get it checked from Raileys alt. service he checked them both told me they were fine and told me how to wire them so that it would work. guess what? I had a D.A.moment (dumb a**) and hooked the charge wire to the + side of the bat. this is a +ground so it still didn't charge until I told myself "you D.A" that don't go there switched the wires and it still works thanks to Mike Railey for pointing me in the right direction.

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John T

08-05-2007 18:19:52




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to keith rausch, 08-05-2007 10:58:43  
Keith, Is your VR a 3 (BAT ARM FLD) or a 4 (LOAD BAT FLD ARM) terminal????? On most 4 terminal VR's the terminals side by side are LOAD BAT FLD while the one off on one side or the bottom all by itself is the ARM terminal.

BAT on VR wires to the load (NOT battery/starter) side of ammeter

FLD on VR wires to gennys Field post (often smaler of the two)

ARM/GEN on VR wires to gennys Arm post (often larger of the two)

On a 4 terminal VR the LOAD terminal feeds hot battery input voltage to loads like lights n ignition usually via the BAT input terminal on the switches.

NOTE if it had a 4 terminal VR which was replaced with a 3 terminal VR, the wire that used to go to LOAD on the VR may have been swapped over to BAT on the VR (still works that way)

Determine which VR you have, wire it accordingly POLARIZE the genny n see what happens. The tractor was originally Positive ground you know !!!!! !!!

John T

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keith rausch

08-05-2007 18:37:39




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to John T, 08-05-2007 18:19:52  
thanks for the help i now know what im doing. my other 2 jd tractors are a 36 b and 37 a both magneto hand start. this is my first jd with all this electrical stuff. thanks again



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GeorgiaHayFarmer

08-05-2007 11:40:13




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to keith rausch, 08-05-2007 10:58:43  
Hi Keith,

Something to check first is to get the correct diagram or wiring schematic for your tractor. Then verify by run, not only by wire color that your wiring is correct. Make sure you have a good working VR or a new one that is the right voltage and polarity for your tractor. Your generator should have markings on the two posts. F-Field and A-Armature. Those two have leads that should go to the VR-Voltage Regulator. Field will be marked on one VR termainal with an F. Armature wire will go to the terminal most likely marked with Gen if I'm not mistaken. The other terminal should be marked with a BAT. This wire will be the heavy guage wire going to your amp guage more than likely. Sometimes you will have an additional wire coming from the light switch and it will be doubled up on the Bat terminal with the amp guage wire or will be on the load terminal if you are using a 4 terminal VR. Don't trust wire color unless you know the harness is original or you have verified the wire run. If you know your generator is good, a way to verify with everything hooked up is to momentarily ground your field wire and you should get a full positive charge on the amp guage. Some people polarize them with the tractor running and others without them running. So double check your procedure for that as well. I should have the diagram for your tractor so if you need any more help, send me an email with your questions.

Hope this helps,

Scott Griffith

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Bob

08-05-2007 12:32:48




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to GeorgiaHayFarmer, 08-05-2007 11:40:13  
NEVER EVER wait until starting the tractor before polarizing!

If the generator begins charging with the wrong polarity at startup, the cutout/regulator will likely get it's points welded together, then drain the battery and overheat/let the smoke out of the generator at shutdown.

Polarizing BEFORE initial startup prevents this!



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Bob

08-05-2007 11:05:46




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 Re: john deere 60 generator help in reply to keith rausch, 08-05-2007 10:58:43  
The tabs on the regulator are labeled, as well as terminals on the generator. What'sa problem???



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