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Kimberly M.

01-20-2000 09:40:22




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My friend was killed while using a John Deere tractor...it jumped into gear and ran him over. Has anyone else heard of this happening? Couldn't this be unsafe? Please e-mail me or post here...I'd really like to hear from someone. Thanks!




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Douglas

02-02-2000 02:55:38




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
very sorry to hear about the loss of a freind, can you please give more details about the equipment he was operating , as i farm everday i would like to know if one of my tractor could be the same model as the one he was using.



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Cannpnball

01-22-2000 06:35:17




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
just wondering if the tractor was a newer style..with reverser by the steering wheel, could be possible that it was placed in netural there and just got off, while getting off bumped it into foward..how many of us hold on to the steering wheel when we get on or off tractors that are open station..... just a though...prayers go with his family



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Don

01-21-2000 15:31:07




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
Tractors cant jump into gear. If it took off it was already in gear, the clutch bearing froze to the crank or if newer it was not in park. accidents do happen but it had to be stupidity in the first place.



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DonF

01-21-2000 08:53:06




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
Not that serious, but could have been. I have a cousin-in-law that bought a heavy army coat just after WWII. His dad had a John Deere A with skelton wheels. The boy liked to shoot jack rabits etc in the field and had a scabbard mounted just ahead of the clutch lever. He stopped and jumped forward to dismount and grabbed the gun. Of course, the coat caught on the clutch lever and pulled it forward. He fell and the wheel just grazed his body and the tractor went by. I don't know what he was pulling but he managed to get out of the way and run to stop the tractor. That scares me when I think about it.

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Tim H

01-20-2000 14:45:22




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
Please give us more details of the accident. (what was he doing, where was he standing, the model of the tractor, etc.) Even if we are unable to offer you any advice or assistance, maybe making others aware of the details in this forum could prevent someone else from meeting the same fate.



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Nathan(GA)

01-21-2000 13:08:03




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 Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Tim H, 01-20-2000 14:45:22  
She has the same post over on Rummy's. Reading last night she said she thought it was a 7800 JD. Somebody down below said there was a problem with the 7000 series doing this. Nathan



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stew

01-20-2000 13:44:33




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
I'd be interested in knowing what model of tractor you friend was operating,,, I know our local dealer is performing recall work on the 7000 series tractors for some sort of problem related to this



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Greg H.

01-20-2000 10:27:27




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 Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Kimberly M., 01-20-2000 09:40:22  
My condolences for your loss. A tractor manufactured by Deere in my experience cannot jump into gear, it must be placed into gear, and clutch disengaged If it's an antique it has a hand clutch that must be engaged before the tractor can move under its own power, only recommeded being done from the operators platform. Now if your freind forgot to set his parking break, again it might roll, but that has nothing to do with design. As bad as we hate to admitt it nearly all farm accidents are not realy accident they are operator error. Mistakes made while cutting safety corners, and not operating machinery properly. I've been there. I was lucky I wasn't killed a time or two, but I have lived to be wiser. If you are fishing for information to help in a proposed lawsuit, you'll find no simpathy here. Tractors are Machines, parts break, but more often than not people are stupid. This is just my oppinion, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I can think of a lot of worse ways to go than fooling around with an old Deere. Respectfully, Greg H.

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signman

01-20-2000 17:16:36




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 Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Greg H., 01-20-2000 10:27:27  
I've seen two JD 2-cylinders that engeaged themselves. It wasn't pretty watching that 4th generation model 50 just start right out the gate of the field and down into the ditch on it's own. My father had gotten off the tractor to move the seed truck out of my way as I harrowed in the oats, when all at once the tractor and drill exited the field. The tractor was in gear and a clutch lining broke and piled up engaging the clutch. A no-no with leaving a clutch disengaged but it happened. The second experience was having a clutch bearing seize up on a 730 D. This time the tractor couldn't move since it was already stuck in a good ol' fashioned mud hole. Take em out of gear and ENGAGE THE CLUTCH.

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Spokerd1 Hate to bust your bubble

01-20-2000 15:37:09




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 Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Greg H., 01-20-2000 10:27:27  
I had rebuilt a 400 JD backhoe Tranny one time when I worked for a JD Dealer, and happened to have a factory rep in the shop working on another tractor problem, When I went to test the tractor. Both Sticks were in Neutral and I had a gpm gauge hooked up testing my pressures when the tractor ran through the shop wall. The factory rep for Deere got to the tractor first and killed it. He looked the tractor over and told the Boss that that was the first tractor he had seen one take off ran through a shop wall while in Neutral. I got on the tractor and started it and drove it back to the shop. It happens! I am sorry to that Kim lost her friend also. You are right the tractor are designed to got go into gear unless you push on the stick. But Hyd. will do some strange things. That tractor that ran over her friend could have been a Power Shift

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Jonathan

01-20-2000 14:35:22




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 Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Greg H., 01-20-2000 10:27:27  
so what if you pissed off a few people !!!...reality isn't pleasant sometimes...as the gentleman stated, tractors do not tend to "jump" into gear..usually due to a careless move of the operator...hitting the shift lever from the ground, starting the machine from the ground etc... I suppose I shouldn't judge before hearing the other side of the story , but my feelings are that adults should be held responsible for their own actions....

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mike

01-20-2000 13:18:08




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 Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Greg H., 01-20-2000 10:27:27  
Boy don't you think you just pissed a few people off!! BUT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT! Mike



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Tom

01-20-2000 16:44:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to mike, 01-20-2000 13:18:08  
I also feel badly for the poor fellow. But, I thought that Wyatt Earp was the only one that shot first and asked questions later. I would have jumped in there and seconded the motion, if I thought that there was someone trying to find someone or something to blame. Still, I think that we should hear the story first. This JD board is really tuff.



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Rusty

01-21-2000 13:12:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help! Tractor Accident in reply to Tom, 01-20-2000 16:44:37  
I'm real sorry to hear about the loss. I've been working with John Deers for ten years now. I spend 12-15 hours aday in an 8850 in the summer time. Tractors are not toys. Farmin' is high on the risky jobs list. I have been hurt & am thankful to god for guardian angels. I have foundthat most close calls & accidents comes from being tired or not paying attention to safety proceedures. And believe me J.D does build them into thier eguipment. On our farm the only people allowed around a questionable piece of equipment is the boss & myself. one must think safety first cause a tractor can't think & is made to drag heavy implements through dirt. Always put in park if the tractor has it &/or set parking brake, Or shut it off.

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