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720 man

05-19-2007 14:47:14




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Today I had my JD 720 diesel run for about 2 straight hours on idle, operating my baler on PTO (not pulling it). It was hooked up to my 273 NH baler. When I was finished timing and adjusting the baler, I noticed the 720 was releasing blue smoke from the exhaust. Keep in mind this tractor is a clean burner. Sprits of black oil was also seen in the exhaust. I checked the oil bath cleaner, and noticed the level was a half inch higher than the fill line. I kept the bowl off. So I drove it down the farm lane in 6th gear, and it did not hesitate at all; she still had good power. But I did notice when I shut it down that some antifreeze from the cap spilled down the sheet metal. I did listen for a blown head gasket, and heard no leaks. Please help! I need to cut and bale hay this week

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kendak

05-21-2007 07:32:03




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
I find it extremly interesting that peaple realy still use these old two cyl. in the field...I farmed for more than 30 yrs. & the last 2 cyl. that I saw working in the field was about 1972...most all down here in the MS. delta have gone to the scrap yard years ago...I have [37 "A"...46"A"...52"A"...53 "60"...57 "720"] I think thats great that you still use them ..keep up the good work...Kent



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HAPPY DEERE

05-19-2007 19:03:12




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
sounds to me like she needs a good days work



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ErnieDD

05-19-2007 17:26:35




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
You have the symptoms of wet stacking. Too much idle and not enough work. The cylinders have a coat of varnish that promotes blow by and poor combustion.

Assure yourself the headgasket is ok and button it up.

Work the snot out of it, an hour or two it will be fine.



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F-I-T

05-19-2007 19:23:23




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to ErnieDD, 05-19-2007 17:26:35  
Ernie, I would have thought it to be only that, too, except that he says it burped coolant which is not a symptom of wet stacking. Those upper radiator tanks had so much room at the top for expansion of coolant, if it's burping coolant, and it is not over filled, he has something going on up there that he has to pin down. If it is a leaky head gasket and he takes it out and really lays into it and it gets a big gas bubble formed around the temp gauge bulb in the upper pipe and insulates the true temperature from the ehter bulb, he could be in for a really bad day.

Also, in my experience, a two cylinder diesel in good repair won't develop wet stack in just one day of loafing around. He needs to make sure that the "oiliness" is not glycol from the antifreeze forming a soap with the greasy soot and that that is the liquid that is spraying out of the stack.

I hope it just needs some load time, but to tell you the truth, a weak one almost always continues to wet stack just a little all the time. A tight one takes along time to get any oil in the stack, by which time it goes back to work and the oil gets burned out. I know when I put a loafer on my dyno and smoke the old paint off the outside and the grease out of the inside of the muffler, all manner of wear and sins are revealed!

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F-I-T

05-19-2007 16:04:46




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
It could be a leaky head gasket. On a two cylinder diesel tractor, you have fewer choices since you don't plugs to pull. But, if you put it on 6th gear, lock the brakes, gently ride the clutch in to put a good load on the engine, and if you feel secure in your clutch and brake man, have a look down into the open radiator. A normal insidious foam or bubbling will increase from the fuel and heat transfoer to the point where it might even make a sizable water spout jumping out of the cap flange. If you can put th etractor on a dyno so much the better.

Frank

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johhs48jdb

05-19-2007 15:55:47




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
i don't know if you could rig up a pressure testor on the radiator cap or not, but if you could it would clue you real fast about a water leak some where. let it set over night and open the drain plug just a little and see if water runs out first before the oil does. it may not if the blown gasket has a small leak in it.



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Mike M

05-19-2007 17:39:33




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to johhs48jdb, 05-19-2007 15:55:47  
A pressure tester fits right on them and works great to find those leaks. You don't even need to pressure it up as if the head gasket leaks it will soon over pressure it.



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mjbrown

05-19-2007 15:34:19




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 Re: 720 suddenly smoking in reply to 720 man, 05-19-2007 14:47:14  
Try running it with the radiator cap off and see if there is any bubbles of exhaust. I have a 730D and it had a blown head gasket for a long time and I didn't know it. The coolant smelled sooty and it was apparently acidic from the exhaust and rotted out the radiator core. If it has a blown head gasket it may run first on one cylinder then the second one pick up. In my case the leak in the gasket was small enough that the tractor ran pretty good for a long time. It was the radiator failure that was the tip off. I had to have the head machined because the leak erroded a small groove in it.

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