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JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans?

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BobL

01-07-2000 06:29:08




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I just purchased a JD b for my 15 month old son. Doing some tune up work on it and I & T manual I got with it states 18 quarts of oil in diff and trans. Is 85w-90 gear oil correct for here in WI? Thanks for any info.




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Has Chad met his match?

01-08-2000 17:05:35




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 Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to BobL, 01-07-2000 06:29:08  
We'll see.



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Chad Wink

01-09-2000 01:21:07




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 Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to Has Chad met his match?, 01-08-2000 17:05:35  
No I haven't but I'm tired of arguing with people who have just a little bit of knowledge on a subject, but think they are experts on it. As far as I care, you can use ATF in your tractors, it doesn't bother me a bit. How often do we need to go over the same subject over and over and over again?



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AL

01-07-2000 14:27:55




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 Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to BobL, 01-07-2000 06:29:08  
I Used to use GL5, 80-90 or 85-120 in my Waterloo machines. 'Bout 2 years ago I read a fact sheet written by the API (American Petroleum Institute) about about gear lubes. Based on what I read there, I decided to try an 85-140 series MT1 lube. MT1 is supposed to have a very high shear strength & shock load rating. It is made for high torque, straight cut spur and worm gear drives. Since that's what these old Waterloo machines are, high torque straight cut spur gears, I decided to try it in the 70D since I had drained him to rebuild the PTO clutch. I flushed the case with Kerosine, blew it out with air & let him sit a week with the plugs all out. Then filled 'er up with MT1. Quieter & smoother but only time will tell. You won't go to Wal-Mart & buy a pail of MT1. You'll have to go to a petroleum products distributor like a Shell, Texaco, Pennzoil etc. & will still probably have to order it.

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CLOONEY

01-07-2000 14:38:30




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 Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to AL, 01-07-2000 14:27:55  
You are correct MT1 is good, but very hard to find



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CLOONEY

01-07-2000 13:40:41




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 Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to BobL, 01-07-2000 06:29:08  
Bob, 85w140, or 90w. If it has a lot of hours on it use straight 140w, 140 will be a little hard to shift in very cold weather though. Just don't use GL5 or later gear oil from TSC etc. Most of the GL5 lube & later have additives in them that attack brass & bronze parts in the transmission. Personaly I use 70W motor oil in my 2cyl's transmissions, it has better anti rust & anti-wear additives in it & it won't attack brass parts. 70W motor oil is equal to about 100-120W gear oil. It runs quieter too.

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Chad WInk

01-07-2000 22:23:20




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 Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to CLOONEY, 01-07-2000 13:40:41  
It will not damage brass! Thats an old story. Name for me a manual transmission made today that doesnt have brass in it? I bet you cant!



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CLOONEY

01-08-2000 05:01:40




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 Re: Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to Chad WInk, 01-07-2000 22:23:20  
Chad, most transmissions today don't use gl-5 gear lube,they use motor oil or atf. The ones that do use a different alloy in the brass parts, they do have, ( a lot of testing goes into making sure the blocker rings & thrust washers are additive complient).The additives don't actually attack the brass, they attack the copper in the brass. That is why gear oils have a copper rating in their specs.(if you can get the lube specs. from the supplier of the lube) you can make your own decision. There is a very good paper published by one of the oil companys about this problem, if I find at work it I will post it here.

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CLOONEY

01-08-2000 17:00:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to CLOONEY, 01-08-2000 05:01:40  
Don't want to scare everybody into going out & changing there trans oil. The "EXTREME PRESSURE" additives in gl-5 lube take a long time, & need heat to do any damage. Unless you are going to work your tractor hard enough & long enough to get the gear oil really hot it shouldn't be a problem.



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Scott

01-07-2000 11:46:23




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 Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to BobL, 01-07-2000 06:29:08  
Sure Bob, 85w-90 or 85w-140 will be fine, thats what I use in my 1952 A.



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Bobl

01-07-2000 12:34:25




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 Re: Re: JD B-18 qts of what in diff and trans? in reply to Scott, 01-07-2000 11:46:23  
thanks for the quick reply.



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