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leaky rear axle seals on 48 b

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johns48jdb

02-25-2007 16:03:16




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i don't think my seals would leak if i could get the seal replaced between the power trol and the trany. every time i check the rear end dope its over full and i keep having to add fluid to the power trol, so i assume the seal between the two is bad. i just show the tractor and don't really drive it that much when i get to a show, so i'm not worried if i drain alot of fluid off of the trany. that just helps for a while. i hate guys who do this without looking at the shop manual first, but i'm not sure that fixing this is something that i could do because i've never done it before. i've got a good shop and plenty of young guys to pull wrenches, but just how difficult is this to do. i'm a fair mechanic, but is this something thats best left up to a jd shop?

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johns48jdb

02-25-2007 19:53:52




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 Re: leaky rear axle seals on 48 b in reply to johns48jdb, 02-25-2007 16:03:16  
thanks for reply f-i-t. i do leave my pto running all the time. i show my tractor with the cultivators on it and the model 212b planters on the cultivator. i keep my tractor in an enclosed trailer and keep the cultivators set down where ever it is parked so i run the pto all the time. i will try to switch it off more now and see if that helps. sounds like the axle seals would be a major undertaking. i've never done that before either. i don't mind learning how to do new things and that sounds like a fun winter time project. i hate to think of skinning all those bolt heads up and replacing the tires and rims back on the axles. i'll have to remove the rear cultivators gangs and the pipes that lift the front cultivators. more skent up paint. i painted my tractor in 99 and its held up real well since i keep it in a trailer all the time, but it could stand touching up in a few places any way.

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02-25-2007 17:23:57




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 Re: leaky rear axle seals on 48 b in reply to johns48jdb, 02-25-2007 16:03:16  
John:

You could probably stop or at least significantly reduce the flow of Powr-Trol oil into the rear end cavity for the most part by just switching off the pto. When the pto turns, so does the hydraulic pump, and those pump gears turning is pushing the oil through that pto shaft to faulty rear end seal.

Replacing that seal is not very difficult. It's a pretty straightforward procedure on a late-styled "B". Reomve the battery, then drain the rearend lube, and get a couple strong backs, or one engine hoist and remove the rear cover, Powr-Trol still attached. It will all slide clear after you remove that 15 or so bolts around the flange that attaches the rear cover to the rear end. The pto just slides off of a splined coupler. I think that old double-chevron pump seal might have been replaced by two seals nose to nose. Deere has done that in several applications like power steering pumps and such.

To be really, really, sure that you have the leak stopped, it might be a good time to replaced the actual axle seals that are behind the bull gears on each axle on the inside end of the axles. The outer end felt is just a dust shield. While you are that far, if you remove the axles, you can "mop" the excess oil up in the axle housing. If you leave it there, it will continue to work its way out for a long time to come, and you might think you still have a leak when it is really just the trapped oil still coming out.

When it's time to replace the rear end cover, I like to use a couple of longer bolts with the heads removed, or some tough threaded rod, to fashion two guide pins to allow you to keep the gasket in position and support the rear cover while you carefully slide it up into position. Be sure to use a reputable sealant on the cover gasket. I like good old Permatex, but there are many other that work well, too.

Frank

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