TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum

JD 4-219 diesel engine oil

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

37 chief

02-22-2007 15:08:08

Report to Moderator

My JD 401b industrial tractor manual is telling me to use 30 wt oil only, not multi-viscosity above 32 F. I am sure there is a reason they want straight wt oil. Does anyone have a different opinion? I use 15-40 in my MF with no problems. Thanks stan

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

jdemaris

02-23-2007 12:13:04

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 15:08:08

When we sold them new, Deere recommended straight 10W diesel-rated oil for cold weather use and straight 30W for warm. We used Quaker State HDX10W or Deere Torqgrard 10W. When the 15W-40 diesel rated oils first came into common use, Deere didn't want us using them in older engines (around pre-1985) - mainly because of all the polymers used in multi-visc. oils. Polymers burn off an leave residue in diesels that can cause stuck rings, carbon, etc. Polyacrylate, nitrile, silicone, etc. are examples of some of the polymers used. Some diesels today will still get a voided warranty if 15W-40 conventional oil is used at temps above zero F. (mostly Detroit 2-strokes). The polymer problem is eliminated by using sythetic oil. I suspect thats why Deere advocates its Plus 50 0W-40 Synthetic oil for cold weather. I do know the Deere still recommends - that if using conventional oil (not synthetic), - in the winter use oil that is rated for the coldest temps possible. And, if summer - pick an oil rated for the warmest temps possible. No conventional 15W-40 covers that entire range.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Roy Suomi

02-23-2007 12:10:37

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 15:08:08

The only thing that I'm going to say about multigrades is , There's a wide fluxuation in oil pressure from idle to wide open throttle..We use 15w40 in Mack trucks and the oil pressure reads anywhere from 30 to 70 lbs..

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Cannonball

02-23-2007 05:06:05

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 15:08:08

I use 15 40 in my 401b...have used it about 6 years, in fact use it in all the tractors here (7)..it is diesel rated oil..I change oil and filter every 100 hours...the 401b is compared to the 2440..the last year built is 1981...

MAY GOD BLESS THE USA

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

37 chief

02-23-2007 07:28:06

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to Cannonball, 02-23-2007 05:06:05

cannonball, What do you you use your 401b for? I am going to use mine for flail mowing, as it takes more hp to run a larger mower. Thanks for the info on the oil. Stan

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

cannonball

02-24-2007 06:26:32

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-23-2007 07:28:06

I run a 9 ft Kuhn mower on it commercially baling hay...it sees a lot on hot hard work...the only problem i see they don't have a large enough pan, 6 qts are not enough... does your's have a reverser, mine does wish all of them did...

MAY GOD BLESS THE USA

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

37 chief

02-24-2007 14:42:28

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to cannonball, 02-24-2007 06:26:32

Yes mine has the what I call instant reverse. I haven't got it running yet. I bought it with a bad motor. I have the reversing feature on my massy 203 industrial I like it, it is great for mowing, in corners. my massy 231 dosen't have it, also wish it did. Stan

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

G/MAN

02-22-2007 16:32:06

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 15:08:08

I don't think you'll have the slightest problem with any quality 15W-40 diesel engine oil. I'm not sure how old that machine is, but if it is an older model, it wouldn't be surprising to see straight-weight oils recommended. Mult-Viscosity engine oils haven't been around forever they way straight-weight oils have, and your machine may simple predate the time when quality multi-viscosity diesel oil was available.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

37 chief

02-22-2007 17:05:00

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to G/MAN, 02-22-2007 16:32:06

G-Man. Thanks for the reply, The machine is early 80's. They do recomend multi wt oil below 32 F. I think I will go with the 15-40. Stan

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Mike Aylward

02-22-2007 17:42:29

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 17:05:00

I would almost guess that the reason that Deere didn"t list multi-viscosity oil in that vintage machine is because they didn"t offer it then! I have service bulletins from the 60"s (before Deere offered their own bran oil) and they had no problem with them then. Mike

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Mike Aylward

02-22-2007 17:42:13

Report to Moderator

Re: JD 4-219 diesel engine oil in reply to 37 chief, 02-22-2007 17:05:00

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy