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Straightening Front Rims

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Ken Reese

01-13-2007 16:25:44




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I am looking for suggestions/techniques to straighten the outside front wheel/rims which go on my 1939 Model B.

With the exception of some pitting on the interior (tube area), the wheels are in pretty good shape. However, the rims have been dented in several locations around the perimeter.

Please share any techniques you've found to do the job.

Thanks,
Ken




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las vegas

01-15-2007 09:06:17




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
THanks guys, been a big help. i just put it in the press and played around with it gently for an hour, and i got exc results.

i hope ken achieved results too.



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Ten-Twenty

01-14-2007 05:15:29




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
Ken,

A wheel and frame alignment shop will have a tool to straighten those curled/bent rim lips perfectly w/o beating on them with a hammer. (See my response to las vegas below.)



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Henry M

01-14-2007 00:29:38




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
Ken

On the outside diametrer bent up places on rims, I work them with various hammers and dolly's as suggested. I havn't had the pleasure of working with bent centers.

An elcheapo body hammer and dolly set from like harbor freight will have a hammer shape for just about any occasion for the novice like me.

Sometimes I get kinda high tech and aafter I think I got the shape correct, I set the rim up on a smooth concrete floor and give it a roll and follow it and observe for wobbles indicating larger type outer deformations and use the at least four pounder on drifing the big ones back in place. It will be up to you on how much you want to grind samd and fill the hammer dings afterward.

Guaranteed to make our ears ring - that is if they don't do it all the time like mine.

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las vegas

01-13-2007 19:20:39




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 how about bent rim LUG CENTERS? in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
I have perfect rims on a 1943 model B (the irreplaceable ones that fit only on the narrow hubs, so new ones are out of the question), with the exception that one wheel wobbles in and out as you drive. The center is bent in due to hitting something hard while turning a long time ago.

Anyone know how to straighten a bent CENTER? how about wheel shops? think anyone has the capability to straighten them?

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Steve Crum

01-14-2007 06:42:10




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 Re: how about bent rim LUG CENTERS? in reply to las vegas, 01-13-2007 19:20:39  
I straightend the bent rim center on the Brillion cultipactor on the farm once. The hired man who had a knack for being able to bust an anvil hooked the door jam pulling this out of the machine shed. I set the rim without the tire flat on the concrete floor and measured the offset around the center hole, then measured the offset of the other undamaged wheel. I marked the 'highside' on the damaged wheel then put it in the 20 ton press on top of an old 13" rim so the bead flange wouldn't get bent, then pressed on the high side and a few tweeks on the backside on the opposite lowside and a few measurements and a few more minor tweeks on the highside again then I put it on the pactors' hub and spun it with a rattlecan sitting on the floor next to it and it was running within a 1/16" of true. I didn't even have to repaint the wheel.

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Ten-Twenty

01-14-2007 05:11:53




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 Re: how about bent rim LUG CENTERS? in reply to las vegas, 01-13-2007 19:20:39  
las vegas,

Find yourself an old, established wheel and frame alignment shop. They should have an old piece of equipment that can align/straighten a wheel center perfectly. If you were in MN, I would send you to Andover Wheel & Frame Alignment. Also, they will have a tool to uncurl those bent rim lips without beating on them with a hammer.



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Kurt_JDB

01-13-2007 21:05:59




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 Re: how about bent rim LUG CENTERS? in reply to las vegas, 01-13-2007 19:20:39  
Ken,

I"m just thinking out loud here, so I"ve never tried this, but what if you were to take your good rim, and use it as a pattern to cast two blocks of concrete, one for each side of the rim. Make them a foot thick. Then put your bent rim between the blocks and press them together in a 20 ton hydraulic press? Might this not straighten out the center?

Might make for an interesting weekend, anyway.

Kurt

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DDS-INC

01-14-2007 00:05:37




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 Re: how about bent rim LUG CENTERS? in reply to Kurt_JDB, 01-13-2007 21:05:59  
how about just keep putting scrap steel in a press so that you can eventually get it formed to shape again?

IT SURE WORKS BETTER THAN BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF THE CENTERS!



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Kurt_JDB

01-13-2007 18:02:32




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
Ken,

I was just doing this job today. I got some advice from FIT on how to straighten that rim, and it seems to work pretty well. Find youself a small ballpeen hammer, of the right size so that the head of the hammer will fit right in the small curve outside of the bead of the rim. Use a dolly or a body hammer to knock on the other side right opposite the ballpeen. I found I had to wack it pretty hard, as I was using two pretty light hammers, but it did straighten out. Took me about 45 mins. to get the hang of it. Hammer on the side that is bent in, and it will come back out toward the hammer. It might ding it up a little.

See the disscussion a few pages back

Kurt

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RayP(MI)

01-13-2007 17:14:54




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to Ken Reese, 01-13-2007 16:25:44  
Had a rim off my old farm truck that refused to come off with application of a sledge hammer. Finally resorted to heat. Took bent up rim to tire dealer, and he laid it on concrete floor and pounded it out with another hammer. Not pretty, but holds air for now spare tire. Concrete floor did not fare well, as it now has several damaged places.



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Ken Reese

01-14-2007 08:04:46




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 Re: Straightening Front Rims in reply to RayP(MI), 01-13-2007 17:14:54  
Thanks for the suggestions. If you've got any more, keep them coming.

Ken



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