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jc mini

12-25-2006 05:23:27




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I have A 4010 John deere and I am going to start
putting up hay (round bales)Alfalfa and grass but
what i need to know is when you push the cluch in
should the pto stop mine dont will this make a problem for me when I go to dump the bale out I
have never baled hay this should be fun for me
Also how big a baler will the 4010 run




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Gerald J.

12-26-2006 09:58:06




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 Re: 4010 and hay-- One precaution in reply to jc mini, 12-25-2006 05:23:27  
Be sure to keep the bolts that hold the PTO shaft extension tight. If they work loose the PTO can be messed up. Just watch that the flange never gets loose. Later tractors did the PTO differently to prevent that problem.

Gerald J.



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TimS in Mo

12-27-2006 15:07:38




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 Re: 4010 and hay-- One precaution in reply to Gerald J., 12-26-2006 09:58:06  
I wanted to reinforce what Gerald said, I would even recomend taking the bolts out that hold that pto stub shaft on one at a time, and replacing them with fresh grade 8 bolts and using locktite on them when you put them back in unless you need 1000 rpm pto pretty often.

I had mine come loose on me while brushhogging even though I was checking those bolts daily...once I bought new ones and locktited them, no more problems even after running the discbine and round baler for hours.

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61-4010

12-25-2006 18:42:33




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 Re: 4010 and hay in reply to jc mini, 12-25-2006 05:23:27  
Love the 4010 for a baling tractor. The live PTO is perfect. The size of the tractor is awesome for baling. Use ours for all haying operations except cutting. Raking, baling....a most perfect machine.



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R. John Johnson

12-25-2006 17:43:31




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 Re: 4010 and hay in reply to jc mini, 12-25-2006 05:23:27  
I've made thousands of round bales with our 4010. It's a great baling tractor. The only thing better would be if it could be equipped with a quiet, air conditioned cab. (thats why I now bale with a 4230) Having the PTO operating independent of the transmission clutch is the absolute best set up possible for a baler.

Like one other poster asked, what baler are you thinking of using?

John



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gwece

12-25-2006 06:48:25




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 Re: 4010 and hay in reply to jc mini, 12-25-2006 05:23:27  
The 4010 is a great haymaking tractor. I have one which I have used with a New Holland 850 round baler (5 1/2 x 6 foot bales) for years. With the PTO engaged, the baler turns the bale while you complete wrapping the twine (mine is electric tie). You then shut off the PTO and open the rear tailgate hydraulically. Engaging the PTO again turns only the floor chains and pushes the bale out of the baler.

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J cook/iowa

12-25-2006 06:33:12




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 Re: 4010 and hay in reply to jc mini, 12-25-2006 05:23:27  
A 4010, should by now, have been reequipped with 4020 sleeves and pistons, thus giving it 4020 power. My 4020D easily handles a JD 530 which makes a 5x6 bale.

As for your pto not stopping when you put in the clutch, that is called LIVE POWER TAKE OFF and it is the DESIREABLE set up for using pto equipment. Shutting off the pto is done with that handy handle on the side of the dash cowling.

If you had a tractor with a transmission driven pto, one where the power to the pto stopped when you put in the clutch, your machine, while under load would lose power , possibly cauing it to plug. You want continuous pto power to a machine like a baler.

Another drawback to tranmission driven pto is that if the operated machine has a large rotating mass, like say a brush cutter or a square baler flywheel for example, then when you put in the clutch, the large rotating mass transfers it;s power back into the transmission, driving the tractor in gear, in spite of your having the clutch in. This can cause collisions with trees, fences, buildings, other vehicles for example.

Be glad for your Live pto.

The 4010 is a near ideal size tractor for haying.

What baler were you contemplating using?

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