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AfghanStan

12-14-2006 12:59:41




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Has anyone bought a Pole Barn from Hansen Pole Buildings in MN?

I am planning on either buying one from them or building myself using other plans

Nothing real fancy with a size of about 60X40.

Any comments or advice about the process and things to avoid is greatly appreciated.

Merry Christmas




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jdemaris

12-15-2006 06:36:39




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 Check the type of pressure treatment in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
I'm in the process of finishing up a pole barn now. It went slow since I did it all by myself and hand-dug all the pole-holes. I'm lucky to have a large backhoe that I use as a crane for jobs like installing trusses and setting 24' poles. I priced barn-kits all over - including Hansen. Seems to me - there's no savings buying a kit - just some convenience. I came to the conclusion - I could buy my materials piece by piece locally and the final price is still the same. This way, there were no trucking fees involved - and no worry about any bad pieces of lumber that might need replacement. I've never bought a kit yet that didn't have some bad lumber in it. In regard to the gloom-and-doom about using poles on 8' centers - that's nonsense. There are certainly kits out there that are NOT adequate - they do that so they can show a low advertised price. Just use your head and beef up where necessary. You can easily build a barn with poles spaced at 8', and trusses at 4', and have an 80lb.+ snow-load rating. Just order good trusses, use double 2X12s for headers, and bolt them - do not nail. Personally, I would not build anything in this area with a 4/12 pitch. Go to 5/12 at least and a steel roof - and you can still walk it wearing sneakers when dry - and it will always shed the snow. There's always the chance you might be away when high-snow comes. I've had over six-feet of snow build up on some of my flatter roofs. Last year - a new and very large and very expensive horse-stabile and indoor riding arena was put up in my area - all pole-barn construction and all architect and structural engineer designed. It came down after our first big snow-storm. So much for figuring by code. It had been sitting empty, and a lot of snow had built up from previous small snow storms. When the big one hit - it was all over. They were just getting ready to move the horse in. Use common sense instead. One problem I have been running into - is finding pressure-treated lumber that is rated for below-ground. With the new stuff - the chemical is more expensive - so corners are getting cut. Many of the treated 6" X 6" poles for sale are NOT rated for burial. Check closely. I recently had to return a bunch of them. Found out that none of our local lumber yards sell a treated 6" x 6" that is suited for below-ground unless it is at least 12' long. I had a stack of 10 footers here - that were not suited and I had to return them. I finally bought some 20 footers and cut them in half. It gets tricky - because many code specs only give treatment specs for the older CCA treatment - which as been banned for most of residential use. It is still legal for farm use or unexposed residential - but it seems no one carries it anymore. The new - high copper treatment codes - be it Wolmanized, ACQ, or whatever are difficult to figure out. You HAVE to ask. I even had one load of 24 footers and found one that was NOT rated for burial. What other possible use could someone have for a 24' pole?

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Mike M

12-15-2006 08:10:43




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 Re: Check the type of pressure treatment in reply to jdemaris, 12-15-2006 06:36:39  
Dad and I put up a Lester kit many years ago. It used 10ft on center poles and 2x6 purlins on edge set into pockets in the truss 2ft on center. We added extra nails. The side purlins are also 2x6. This was a very good kit as it had good instructions and even most stuff was precut even the angles on the siding.



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gmc ronnie

12-15-2006 02:48:31




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
i built a pole barn in N.J. and it was from a kit i ordered from carter supply in penn. i have 8' centers and it is not a problem. my pitch is 4-12, snow sits on there for a little bit , until it starts to slide of of the metal roof . i saved alot of money doing it myself.



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F-I-T

12-15-2006 15:07:26




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to gmc ronnie, 12-15-2006 02:48:31  
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Boy, howdy, Morton sure builds a lot of them in the snow belt that are on 8 foot centers. Mine doesn't see any snow here in Florida, but it's hurricane rated to the new standards, too.

Frank



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Kurt_JDB

12-15-2006 05:43:49




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to gmc ronnie, 12-15-2006 02:48:31  
No reason that 8 foot centers should not work if the poles and roof trusses are sized and designed correctly. Standard designs must be checked for the region for which they were designed. as snow/wind/seismic requiements differ across the country.

Kurt

(architect and JD owner)



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Dave Sherburne NY

12-14-2006 18:35:53




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
Try this for plans



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Bob Nelson

12-14-2006 17:04:24




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
I bought from Structural Buildings in Becker. Did a nice job. Used 6' between posts and it works fine. But I have a steep pitch 10/12 so snow load is not a worry. It will fall off before it becomes a problem.



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mjbrown

12-14-2006 16:20:12




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
Go to your county cooperative extension office and buy publications for farm buildings. You will get a wealth of information on materials and construction that have passed muster with the engineer types who study this stuff. From my personal experience a 5/12 roof pitch and three rib painted steel will shed snow. Generous over hangs on the gable ends and the eves help keep snow and rain out a bit from the building and look better.

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machinery-man

12-14-2006 13:22:43




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 Re: Pole Barns in reply to AfghanStan, 12-14-2006 12:59:41  
Pricing of these items is based a lot on amount of material. I would put more material in the structure, stay away from things like 8' center, relying on stringer for truss support. I would put my trusses and post on 4' center and used a notched support arrangement for the trusses. Also plenty of pearlings and tie supports as well as sway supports and corner truss supports. You can sleep then when you hear of the heavy snow or ice storm headed your way.

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