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1951 JD A Brakes

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Mean Green

08-31-2006 05:38:47




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I want to take the cover off the brakes and replace the pads and springs, but upon inspection I cant quite figure out how to take the drum off. I know if you remove the three bolts on the the tranny cas that will remove the entire unit, but I don't want to do that. According to the restoration books I should just be able to remove a nut there and the drum will come off. It looks like there is a cover or something over the center of the brake drum. How do I access the nut? And is there a small cover that has to be removed? I have a pic of the tractor I can e-mail, but it is large and does allow you to zoom in pretty close on the brake unit with clarity.

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Mean Green

08-31-2006 08:21:05




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 Re: 1951 JD A Brakes in reply to Mean Green, 08-31-2006 05:38:47  
I think, upon further inspection, that there is a small plate in the middle of the brake disc and that should pop out and reveal the nut I need to remove. One of the books I have that has picture step by step for most jobs on the tractor shows the guy removing the brake drum prior to removing the rest of the unit from the tractor. Anyway thanks for the help, I will find out tonight!



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almrm

08-31-2006 09:06:18




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 Re: 1951 JD A Brakes in reply to Mean Green, 08-31-2006 08:21:05  
John and Bob are correct. The drum is permanently fastened to the shaft by rivots which show on the outside of the drum. The center and two other impressions were used for machining the shaft.

This is not a difficult job. Remove the three bolts. One of them may be a stud and nut. I use a 12 point box end wrench as some of the wrench swing is limited and a socket may not come off after the bolt is backed out depending on socket and bolt length. Pull the entire brake assembly. It comes out easy and weighs about 40 pounds. Remove cotter pin. Back off large nut. Bump assembly on loosened nut on a block of wood if necessary. Make sure to hold just the outside diameter of the drum where you won't pinch your fingers. Remove nut. Withdraw the drum and shaft. Everything moves real easy because it is bathed in gear lube. You will not need to remove an axle housing stud on your model. Gaskets are needed between the brake assembly and the axle housing to keep your tractor clean. Many do not have them and it shows. Tapped out gaskets work fine here if it saves you a trip to JD. It is easier if you make the gasket before you reassenble the drum and shaft. Inspect the three mounting bolts. They can be damaged if the brake ever ran loose. This is a good place for grade 8 bolts.

Good Luck

Mark

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John T

08-31-2006 07:16:38




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 Re: 1951 JD A Brakes in reply to Mean Green, 08-31-2006 05:38:47  
Mean, I forget the years n models they changed over but thought all the lettered series (like your A but maybe not later models???) had the fixed onto the shaft drums. On the later numbered tractors (think thats when they changed???) there was indeed a large nut on the shaft on the OUTSIDE of the drum one removed to remove the brake drum WITHOUT having to remove the entire assembly.

On the early models like the lettered its necessary to remove those 3 bolts/stud into the housing as you mentioned to remove the entire assembly,,,,, ,,,then you remove the cotter key and that big nut on the end of the shaft plus the washers n spacers,,,,, ,,,,and then the entire shaft pulls out with the drum attached (its premanently mounted to the shaft).

On the later tractors (starting with lettered I believe???) theres a big nut at the drums OUTSIDE center which you remove and then the drum can be removed seperately.

Maybe the big nut you read about means the big nut on the INSIDE of the shaft which of course must still be removed so the drum and atached shaft can be pulled out, and if so you gotta obviously remove the entire assembly first.

See if you indeed have a large nut right at the outer center of your drum, cuz if not, you gotta remove the entire assembly n remove the big inner nut to pull the drum and attached shaft. But if the nuts there its sure not hid and needs removed

John T (NOT a brake man nor know when they changed to the removeable drums???)

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Bob Collins

08-31-2006 07:13:32




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 Re: 1951 JD A Brakes in reply to Mean Green, 08-31-2006 05:38:47  
On your tractor the nut is on the inside end of the brake shaft, meaning you will need to remove the 3 bolts and the entire brake unit, you may need to remove a stud from the axle housing before it will come fully out.



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