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johns48b

07-08-2006 18:08:12




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just wanted to pass on how this person in my community got killed on a used, just traded for tractor. i know the old gentleman liked to have a few beers everyday to start with. he traded for a ford jubilee i think and was coming down a mountain on it and apparently tried to change to a lower gear and couldn't get it back in gear and it rolled off a clift with him. why he didn't head it up a bank instead of down one probably has a lot to do with the number of beers he had had. half way down the bluff he throwed his hands up in the air and the tractor hit a tree and sent him flying into the ground and killed him. there is enough ways to get hurt out there being careful, so lets not mix boose and tractors.

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Bubba H

07-09-2006 08:20:59




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to johns48b, 07-08-2006 18:08:12  
John, I know you are trying to help people...but driving a tractor down Keel Mountain could get a lot of people in trouble, drunk or not. "why he didn't head it up a bank instead of down one probably has a lot to do with the number of beers he had had" this sounds to me like a statement of someone who has not had something unexpected happen on a tractor...well it happens real FAST and you do not have time to think the situation out drunk or not. When things go wrong I like to say what a good job I did to not get killed, but honestly alot of times it is luck.

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johns48b

07-09-2006 16:04:25




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Bubba H, 07-09-2006 08:20:59  
hi bubba, you must be from around the huntsville area to know about this accident on keels mountain. i've been driving tractors since i was five or six and have had more than my share of close calls. in 04 i spent 7 days in intensive care because i got hit in the head with a jib i had jury rigged on a ford front end loader. i was disking small brush in the river bottoms with another guy on my grandfathers h. the brush had been knocked down going one way and we were going the other way when a bush rode up the axle and pushed the guy off the seat. he was agile enough to walk around the draw bar and get back on the other side. you remember blake mcmullins son getting killed because they had wired around a safety switch and the tractor cranked in gear when he was standing in between the axles on an articulated tractor jumping it off. clifton manns father got killed in a hay baler accident. i know only to well that accidents can happen even when your trying to be careful. herb got up drinking every morning and went to bed drinking and i was just passing on my thoughts on drinking and driving a tractor or anything else as far as that goes. glad i created some interest on this subject and hope maybe somebody will think next time about getting drunk and driving. thanks for your reply.

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Bubba H

07-10-2006 19:16:46




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to johns48b, 07-09-2006 16:04:25  
Hi John, It just hit me who you are-the man with the nice B. You got me thinking and along with ones you mentioned My dads best friend Clyde Owens (from Maysville) got killed on a Farmall h about 15 years ago while bushhogging and my wifes great uncle got killed near Hazel Green on I believe a ford that tipped over on him some years back. There was also a guy near you I believe that got burnt and died on a 40 or M jd not too long ago. I bet that for every 1 accident you hear about on the news there is 10 you don't hear about. I hope I did not rub you wrong and I should have worded it better. We have meet a couple times and you seem like a super nice guy. I live near Ryland and have a 39 model L. I have not been to many shows lately, my dad had been sick and passed away 3 months ago. His passing has kinda taken away the fun....hope things are well with you and our post remind people how quick (sober or drunk)you can get hurt or killed by just enjoying a hobby. Wallace "Bubba" Hudson

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johns48b

07-11-2006 12:05:32




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Bubba H, 07-10-2006 19:16:46  
hi bubba, sorry to hear about your dad. losing some body close takes some time to get over. if the b your referring to is the one with the planters on it thats me. the gentlemen that got burnt up on a m was a real nice guy. i later talked to the owner of the tractor and he told me that his tractor was the community tractor and even if he wasn't home and you needed it you just went and got it. apparently a neighbor did just that and bent the exhaust pipe back and broke it off under the hood. the owner specilated that they just straighten it up and didn't tell him about it. he found it after he decided to redo the tractor. he feels that the exhaust gas were blowing back against the tank and got it real hot and when the guy that was driving it removed the gas tank cap it blew gas out all over him. it burnt everything on him except the bottoms of his feet. i've had hernia surgery and am just getting over it. i hope to make the athens show. maybe i'll see you there. thanks for the kind words.

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Mark

07-08-2006 22:05:44




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to johns48b, 07-08-2006 18:08:12  
Bob,
I don't think calling things as you see them a 'bash'. I'm not bashing them either. I don't particularly like them, don't own one, but have operated them, and hence my humble opinion of them. They are very easy to get into trouble with. Of course, those who are ardent Ford fans will disagree and that is their perogative.



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Bob

07-08-2006 22:50:08




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Mark , 07-08-2006 22:05:44  
I own an 8N. I grew up with one, and was allowed to operate it unattended from a TOO young age, yet I never managed to get even close to getting in trouble with it. It had a Davis loader, and you wouldn't believe some of the holes I dug with it, even though many of the "experts" on the "N" Board say an "N" won't stand up to loader work.

As long as you hitch towed implements or wagons to a solid drawbar, below the level of the rear axle, you are a long ways towards not tipping one over.

They have damn poor brakes, though, and are not alone in that respect. Some of our GREEN machines, especially certain Dubuque models, are not too great in that department, either!

While I have to admit Deeres are my favorite, I own or have owned just about every classic American brand there is, and appreciate them ALL.

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Mark

07-09-2006 06:25:14




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Bob, 07-08-2006 22:50:08  
Bob,

I enjoy thois friendly exchange we are having....so often this conversing turns to ugly talk...and there is no call for that.

I was raised with the 'other green' and some the things I did on that old '46 Oliver 60 may be responsible for the gray hair on MY head today..hehehe!

This new 5320 JD I have, has caused me more fright already than any tractor I have ever owned. The one tractor I owned that seemed welded to the ground (in an upright position) was an Allis CA. Never ever had a scary time while running it.

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Bob

07-08-2006 19:12:54




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to johns48b, 07-08-2006 18:08:12  
What gets me, especially on the "Ford N" Board, is the number of folks who post, asking if their little tractors can pull this or that UP a hill. You can pull 'most anything UP hill, if you have a low enough first gear, it's just that it is even MORE important to have good brakes for the trip DOWN the hill. If the tranny pops out of gear, and you don't have good brakes, you're SCREWED!



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Mark

07-08-2006 21:28:59




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Bob, 07-08-2006 19:12:54  
In my humble (and I do mean humble) opinion, the small Ford's have kiiled more people than the rest combined. I had a friend, a good man, get killed by one about 5 years ago. Seems he was pulling a wagon, went thru a small dip and the tongue dragged, got caught and that little 8N back flipped in a second....steering wheel crushed his chest. Might have happened with any tractor the same way....but those old Ford's are so light, doesn't take much to up-end them. They are notorius for lack of brakes too. I'll give them credit though...they are a hoot to drive.

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Bob

07-08-2006 21:55:34




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 Re: tractor related death again in reply to Mark , 07-08-2006 21:28:59  
I wasn't just "bashing" Fords, just making the point folks don't realize how important good brakes, and having a reasonable match between the load and the tractor are.



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