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Model M - Transmission Noise

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Ken Reese

05-31-2006 07:18:27




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Looking at a 1950 "M." Tractor looks great but seller says there is a whine in the transmission in each forward gear.

From this information, can you diagnose the problem? Solution?

I assume the problem is worn bearings.

Thanks,
Ken




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swf

06-02-2006 18:12:43




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 Re: Model M - Transmission Noise in reply to Ken Reese, 05-31-2006 07:18:27  
It's most likely the input shaft bearing is worn or is not properly preloaded (shimmed).



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Mike M

05-31-2006 12:31:53




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 Re: Model M - Transmission Noise in reply to Ken Reese, 05-31-2006 07:18:27  
I'd pass on it and find a quiet one.



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HenryM

05-31-2006 12:05:25




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 Re: Model M - Transmission Noise in reply to Ken Reese, 05-31-2006 07:18:27  
Ken

From my perspective, if there was an easy solution it would be done and much more worth on the market. My experience with those dubuque trannies is that usually whatever you do to them they come out sounding the same. I had mine down to the case twice and replaced some gears, ring and pinion, and bearing and races - still the same noise.

Os if you have to have the tractor for nostalga or something be prepared to live with the noise. I sure wouldn't pay retail for that kind of problem.

Now to raise some dust. Why the M? If you go with a 420 you can have ease of mounting and dismounting, bigger motor, water pump, three point hitch, power steering, 5 speed trans, live pto, etc.

Just my two centagos

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Wayne in Tn.

05-31-2006 12:14:34




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 Re: Model M - Transmission Noise in reply to HenryM, 05-31-2006 12:05:25  
I agree with everything Henry has to say. Be prepared to live with the gear noise, because likely it is not the bearings. Its 50 plus years of wear on those straight-cut gears.
I recently spent over $1000 just in parts trying to stop the gear noise, guess what? Still the same.
As mentioned, the 420-430 models are more desireable and will have the modern type 3-point hitch.



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tstex

05-31-2006 15:46:30




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 Re: Model M - Transmission Noise in reply to Wayne in Tn., 05-31-2006 12:14:34  
Henry and Wayne,

You make me feel bad that i am restoring my MT. :)

My transmission has always made more of a grinding/rubbing noise...i think that it is just the nature of the beast. If anyone is using the 90W spec'ed transmission oil, i went to the highter 140/85 and it seemed to quiet down some, but not eliminate it by any means = i have kind of become used to the sound as i have the 2-popping sound.

I bought my MT for many sentimental reasons; that is almost the only reason to buy anything of such antiquity and high expense.

Good luck fella's with all your work.

Regards,

tstex

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