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JD B 4 or 6 speed?

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Nathan(GA)

11-29-1999 20:01:15




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My aunt has an old JD B in the barn. The gear shift guadrant is about 4" diameter with R and 3 other slots. Is this a 6 speed? Do one of the two angled levers to the right of guadrant shift between a high and low range or what? I've looked at pictures on web sites an they show the 6 speed with a big guadrant similar to my 620. According to serial number it's a '41. I'm just not familiar with the B. Been around them when I was younger, but didn't pay attention. It also has a different looking seat mounted on round pipe with flat metal and a shock and spring. So is it a 4 or 6 speed? Thanks in advance for your answers.
Nathan

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Dan

05-29-2002 20:48:29




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 Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Nathan(GA), 11-29-1999 20:01:15  
There is a high and low lever. It's closest to the gear shift lever



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Theman - Could be either

11-30-1999 06:36:43




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 Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Nathan(GA), 11-29-1999 20:01:15  
Had a BN on the farm at home with the quadrant you're talking about but no high gears in the transmission. The gear shift lever would go into the 5th-6th slot but you could tell nothing was happening in the transmission. Next time you are at your aunt's, check it. Deere didn't code any options on the serial number tag and a lot of tractors made around WWII had things like high gears left off. Stan Theman

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Doofus

11-30-1999 06:48:07




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 Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Theman - Could be either, 11-30-1999 06:36:43  
All these Bs, 1941 and up were 6 speed tractors. The ones on steel only had 4 speeds installed with the provision for 6 included. Deere left off the high gear (the one in the cover on the outside of the transmission case behind the flywheel) on the tractors that left the factory on steel wheels. Many of these were converted to rubber later, and most had the high gear added at that time.



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STMTS

11-29-1999 21:19:26




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 Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Nathan(GA), 11-29-1999 20:01:15  
Yes it's a six speed.The 39-40 models were the 4 speeds.The four speeds don't have a quardent at all and yes the longest angled lever is Hi and Low the short one as you know is the PTO< That seat around here was called a Monroe don't know if they were kined to the shock people or not.Probably HuH!!



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mark

12-01-1999 16:56:49




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 Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to STMTS, 11-29-1999 21:19:26  
the monroe was an aftermarket seat. like someone else said, the reason your tractor wouldn,t go into 5th and 6th is because tractors shipped with steel wheels didn't have the high gear installed on the left side of the transmission. your tractor is a 6 speed.



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Nathan(GA)

11-30-1999 19:30:00




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 Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to STMTS, 11-29-1999 21:19:26  
Thanks for the answer Mike. The only pictures I've seen are of either no guadrant or the big square 6 slot. The seat is a pan seat with the old original pad in place. The engine is locked up, but I don't think it would take much to get it going. Looking through plug holes I don't see any rust. My uncle put some penetrating oil in before he died. I said it was a '41 but I can't find the serial number now to confirm. I'll have to go back and look again, but seems like it started with 120xxx. It was parked in barn when running and the old cultivators, turning plow, harrow and grain drill are still there. My aunt would sell it, but her son doesn't want to because it was his dads and I don't blame him one bit. It is a hand start, but has lights and appears to have a place for a battery in front of dash, but I don't see any cables and there is a breather tube sticking up that would have to interfere with the placement of a battery. The cover is missing, but is probably around somewhere. Again thanks for the answer.
Nathan

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Bruce Banning

11-30-1999 03:36:28




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 Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to STMTS, 11-29-1999 21:19:26  

Monroe seat?? My 41 B ( no serial tag but appears to be a 41)has the conventional seat. Was the Monroe seat an option at that time? Is my presumed 41 not a 41??. Is there any foolproof method of determiming the year without a serial number?? Any input would be appreciated. BB



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STMTS

11-30-1999 18:42:34




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 Re: Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Bruce Banning, 11-30-1999 03:36:28  
The Monroe seats were after market I'm pretty sure they came from the old Tractor Supply Company.Well the Waterloo tractors have no way to track once the tag is gone.If its electric start it could be before or after the war.There wasn't many electric starts during the war ,Also some war tractors had steel fins on the radaitor. (As Mr. Thinker says if you want a tag buy one with one),But there are quite a few good tractors out there WITHOUT TAGS So if you would get a parts book you can get close through the serial# breaks in the parts.You would need early to mid styled serial#'s parts book.Lots of the casting #'s are part #'s.There is a casting date code on belt pulley side between the oil check and the frame If it still has it it may read 205-42 that is the 205th dayof 1942.They dropped the year along here somewhere . Hope this helps.Mike horne aka STMTS

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stew

11-30-1999 07:18:47




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 Re: Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to Bruce Banning, 11-30-1999 03:36:28  
I have a 41 B with the conventional seat,,,,my neighbor has a 44 A with the monroe seat,,,is this monroe seat a Deere option or aftermarket ????/



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DEERED

11-30-1999 13:09:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD B 4 or 6 speed? in reply to stew, 11-30-1999 07:18:47  
Had a 40 "B" John Deere that had a seat like that a monroe I mean, and I have a 42 Farmall "H" that has the exact same seat. Same mount and everything. Grampas 41 "C" Allis Chalmers had same seat with a different mount. He put it on so he had some cushion those 3" cotton cushions did't give much.



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