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50 power steering building up pressure

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Ken Monroe

03-16-2006 18:10:10




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My 50 is building up pressure and blowing air and oil out of the dipstick cap hole. Any ideas as to what would be causing this?




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buckeye al

03-17-2006 15:41:24




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 Re: 50 power steering building up pressure in reply to Ken Monroe, 03-16-2006 18:10:10  
In addition to what others have said, I've seen the suction line crack just as it enters the pump letting it suck air (and dirt). Usually inside the nut or just above the seal.

Have also seen the suction line fittings loose enough to allow air in. Air when continuously sucked in from such a leak has to get out some place. I'd check the suction line out carefully.



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F-I-T

03-17-2006 08:46:56




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 Re: 50 power steering building up pressure in reply to Ken Monroe, 03-16-2006 18:10:10  
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I think the seals on the pump might be allowing it so suck in air which is why the oil is foaming, and then the cintered vent brass is clogged so the air cannot escape (though it would probably overpower the tiny vent anyway). Or, the oil you are using is not the quality and type called for and it is foaming up as it runs through and gets whipped up by those gear teeth.

Make doubly sure you are using the JD oil called out as "For Use in Power Steering Systems prior to 1960". Unscrew the dip stick and see if it still "boils" over using this oil. If it does, you can try to lay some air pressure on the dipstick hole and hope to force some oil out of the problem seal or joint so you can find the suction leak. If it is leaking out of the frontmost fan shaft pump seal, you might get lucky and see the drip, but the odds are 50:50 that it is leaking out of the rear most seal which you cannot see. It could even be leaking at either end joint of the suction pipe.

If it were me, if it's still sucking air after an oil upgrade, I would pull the pump. It probably deserves new seals by now. Understand that the new seals are offered as two seals front and two seals back to replace the original chevron double-lipped seals.

Frank

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John VB

03-17-2006 05:30:28




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 Re: 50 power steering building up pressure in reply to Ken Monroe, 03-16-2006 18:10:10  
I believe that there is a vent on the top of the cap. Looks like a sintered bronze circular area. Someone told me a long time ago to soak it in a solvent to make sure it wasn't plugged. May be worth a try.



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Glen in TX

03-16-2006 19:08:01




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 Re: 50 power steering building up pressure in reply to Ken Monroe, 03-16-2006 18:10:10  
Could be wrong type of oil or air leaks? Another reason why to use the JD power steering oil. Check fittings and sealing surfaces applying a coat of oil and watching for leaks. The I&T shop manual or JD SM2050 Power Steering shop manual will help with repairs if needed.



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