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painted or unpainted?

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joshn

01-17-2006 18:32:15




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I have several questions about my 1947 D...
1. Should the 3 way valve be painted green or the polished brass?
2. Generator and starter...painted black or green?
3.The bezel on gauges..Supposed to be painted green to match the tractor?
I have observed these items painted either way, and am not sure which way is correct. Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions.
Josh




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Glen in TX

01-18-2006 12:30:54




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 Re: painted or unpainted? in reply to joshn, 01-17-2006 18:32:15  
Like the others said it depends on what you want on it as it's your tractor and it doesn't belong to the correct police naysayers. I would say the 3 way valve was probably painted originally but could go either way on it as someone replacing one later probably didn't paint it either. The generator a satin black not gloss and the Delco relay covers were originally gloss black. The starters on the styled Ds were green but some could have been black if put on later like the streeter Ds in 53 ? I like them green and seem to see more evidence most of them were green originally but yet you will find the black underneath from Delco. Guages, if you got ones with the chrome rings I like to leave them that way but if you want them all to match paint them green. I've used the later all black guages we would get from JD and they look fine too. I've had NOS JD guages in the box before that had a dark green rim or maybe the chrome rim and white face. You can also see or find evidence of how to paint it in older photos or manuals. It just depends on what you want.

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P Browning

01-18-2006 04:27:21




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 Re: painted or unpainted? in reply to joshn, 01-17-2006 18:32:15  
Please forgive me -- I forgot about the gauges. From the factory, gauge lenses (only) were masked and the rims were painted green. But personal choice comes in to play here too. I prefer chrome if they are chromed already. Some like the black. I have seen all kinds, and they all look good. My gauges are usually mounted after paint, so moe than likely, they remain as they were when I got them!! Very few comments are heard about gauge rim color, but faces -- Gosh you better be right there! For yours, white face is the way to go. You can see a good illustration of the gauges for the JD "H" over at www.jdhpubs.com, select GAUGES. (PatB)

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P Browning

01-18-2006 04:20:15




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 Re: painted or unpainted? in reply to joshn, 01-17-2006 18:32:15  
What you paint on a tractor depends on whether you want to end up with a factory paint job, or something better. From The JD "H" Restoration Guide, 2nd Edition, - - -

Factory painting -- Movies taken of John Deere factory operations during the JD "H" production era show that tractors were completely assembled (with temporary skeleton wheels), then run-in and tested on belt-drive dynometers for power level and fuel economy before being painted green. Subsequently, pre-painted (yellow) wheels were mounted as one of the last assembly activities. Some items were masked such as gauge lenses, light lenses and rear wheel axles, but things like fuel lines, carburetors, water hoses, etc., were not masked, and were painted.

Hidden areas such as underside of the hood or under the platform were left unpainted. After all, these tractors were built for work, not appearance. In fact, that movie showed a touch-up painter slopping paint with a brush onto tractors. So much for factory paint quality!

Doesn't this process sound a lot like a "Spruce up" paint job? So if you are doing a spruce up of this or another tractor, feel free to apply a "factory paint" job! Just don't paint rear axles or splines.

Having outlined the crude factory paint jobs, one must point out that John Deere did occasionally make "show" tractors for expositions, shows, and fairs. These tractors were carefully detailed. Most restorers lean in this direction.

Expo Quality (show) Paint Plan -- Here are some hints. Items not painted include the radiator core, wheel axles, power shaft, ignition parts, brass carburetor parts, hoses, grip part of the steering wheel, temp and oil pressure gauge faces, light lenses, electrical harnesses, generator, cut-out relay, fuel lines and switching valves, and the sediment bowl assembly for openers. Applying Muffler Black (JD P/N TY6550) to the manifold, exhaust pipe and muffler is a nice touch too! Identifying items not to be painted early in the game will allow you to achieve better quality in appearance. Make a plan. Draw it out as a flow chart. You will need it early on as in the radiator, carburetor and steering wheel. ++++

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Island A

01-17-2006 19:49:01




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 Re: painted or unpainted? in reply to joshn, 01-17-2006 18:32:15  
I would say polish the brass (although I THINK it was painted with the tractor originally). The generator should be black as in 1947 they were installed after painting the tractor. Gauge bezels I am not sure, but leaving them black (or chrome) looks nice.
Dave



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DEEREDAVE

01-17-2006 19:36:37




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 Re: painted or unpainted? in reply to joshn, 01-17-2006 18:32:15  
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, BRASS AND DELCO BLACK. NOT SURE ABOUT THE GAUGES.
My two cents.



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