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JD B Frame removal

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B-maniac

01-07-2006 19:56:24




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Please scroll down the page until you see this same subject. I still haven't aclear answer yet.




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B-maniac

01-08-2006 07:19:23




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-07-2006 19:56:24  
Sorry if I mislead any of you but inthis tractors case "original" doesn't mean nice. Grills were beat up,replaced with nice pair of used JD,hood is cut and has some dents all of which to me is no big deal since that is what I have always done for a living.There was just no repairing the grills.Original to me means I don't have to strip off layers of someone elses crappy paint and welded/bolted add ons.Original means I have a clean slate to start with and a lesser chance of expensive surprises later.I agree 100% with you about leaving them original [ we call them "SURVIVERS" in the auto rest. bussiness]..they can only be original once. Unfortunately this tractor just had too many "battle scars" to go that route in my opinion. Yes it is kind of an unusual case that all the mech. work was done and put back together without paint but this guy just wanted his old farm tractor to run nice again and not leak all over his garage floor. It deserves to look as good as it can too.When it is done I will post before and after shots and you all can judge for yourselfs.By the way,I have restored tons of old cars,this is my first tractor,I am 55 yrs. old and a little "creaky in the joints" if you know what I mean.I will ask for advice all day long if it will save me a little headache and unnesassary physical labor.

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Mike M

01-08-2006 15:29:10




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-08-2006 07:19:23  
Sounds like your going to have to find out if that frame will come off without removing the block first. Then post back and tell us the results. It bet there is a good chance it will and the other fellow was able to get one off of that A model.



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B-maniac

01-08-2006 17:05:50




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to Mike M, 01-08-2006 15:29:10  
Mike M Thanks for your info. Everything I'm hearing so far is leading me to believe I'm just being too damn fussy for my own good...probably a carry-over from my classic car/show car restoration days.It just wouldn't have been acceptable to leave that area without same quallity paint as the rest.I will just learn to deal,this IS a tractor.Thanks again.



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Mike M

01-09-2006 05:08:01




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-08-2006 17:05:50  
I'm too darn fussy too ! I never could leave anything unpainted on mine. But I was also always doing the engine tear down too. Actually I tore most all of my tractors completly apart and rebuilt them back up from a bare empty main case. It's a lot of work,but you find alot of problems when you go looking.



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Mike M

01-08-2006 05:30:22




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-07-2006 19:56:24  
I understand what you want to do,but don't know for sure if it can be done as one usually doesn't need to ever remove the frame on a JD. The ones I have were always done after everything else was out.

Now you said it's still original paint ? They are only ever original once ! I'm as big a fan of shiny paint as anyone else cause they look great all fixed up looking pretty. But then I don't want to use them affraid to get it scratched. A tractor in all original condition is very rare around Ohio and they look good in there own right. If you watch Antiques Road Show you will see that everything anyone ever collects is worth far more in untouched original condition even if worn some. BUT this antique tractor collector crowd never has seemed to be as interested in or pay more for one in original condition ? This makes no sense to me and goes against all other collector markets. I had an original B once sold it mainly because I had 3 B's and the ones I had restored I had too much money in them to let them go. Still have an original 530 plan on keeping it that way.No clear cut answers to help you make a decision,but if you truly have an original paint tractor and if it still looks decent and has paint left on it I think I'd hold off on painting it up and ejoy it like it is. Everyone can have one that is shiny like new ,but fewer everyday are going to be able to show off one in it's original clothes.

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01-08-2006 05:36:08




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to Mike M, 01-08-2006 05:30:22  
Let's try something. Post a picture of it here and we can take a survey of should I paint it or not.

Unless it's too late and you allready have it half done.



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JMS/MN

01-07-2006 22:12:37




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 Re: JD B Frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-07-2006 19:56:24  
I read your post, like Eli did, understood what you wanted to do. Then you explained it further- condition, price, (very reasonable!). My question is this- with a tractor in such good mechanical shape, might you be better off, since it has original paint job---- to keep it that way? Some collectors like them that way- maybe resource that oppurtunity first? You can always go the other way. Wish you the best of luck- raised on AC, farm with AC,JD, enjoy the contrast!

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