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B-maniac

01-06-2006 13:58:15

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i am doing a cosmetic restoration on a 1950 b that already had been gone through mechanically wheni bought it. need to know if frame will clear block head etc if i want to unbolt it and remove it for more thorough rest. job. it looks to close to call so i would like to know if someone has ever done it. hate to remove parts that don't needto be.also have made my living for the last 35 years in the automotive colision painting and restoration bussiness so if anyone needs some expert advice that goes beyond any of the books just post your question and i will try to answeritwhen i get time.

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Eli

01-07-2006 09:15:29

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-06-2006 13:58:15

You can on the same year A. You do have to take the manifold andwater pipe off. It makes it real easy to paint around the the block. I would look real close to the block base gasket. Make sure its not leaking. If you have it that far apart it may be worth the extra time to change all the gaskets. Deere still has the gaskets. Nice to see your doing the paint job right. I'm keeping you in mind for painting questions. Good luck, Eli

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B-maniac

01-07-2006 09:53:28

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to Eli, 01-07-2006 09:15:29

Eli must have read my question more thorough than the rest of you,the engine had already been gone through including new gaskets before I bought it. this guy was an old farmer that just wanted it mechanically sound and no leaks but was't wanting or able to restore it cosmeticly.His life situation changed and decided to sell the tractor. He owned it for 35 years and it never sat outside in the rain or weather in that time.It's a 1950 ,everything works,original paint & decals,came with complete! 2 row quick attach cultivator,90% tires,clamshells....$1500.00!

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jd b puller

01-08-2006 15:16:45

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-07-2006 09:53:28

Being a smart a$$ isn't going to win you over a bunch of help. I asked you if you were trying to remove the "frame" or the "engine over the frame".

There's only a couple reasons to remove the frame.
1. You have way too much time on your hands.
2. You saw a bolt and thought it needed to come off.
3. The frame is broken.
4. You don't know what you are doing.
5. You are really anul retentive.

I'm not sure which of these you are, but IF you really decide you want to remove the frame, build yourself some sort of gantry on wheels about 3 feet wider than the frame and bolt it to the frame back where it bolts onto the crankcase. Being a narrow front, and with a Center of Gravity WAY higher than the front axle pivot, it will be REALLY unstable, and you are likely to kill yourself unless you have some help or some sort of support.

In all reality, it would be quicker to pull the block and head than the frame rails.

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B-maniac

01-07-2006 20:04:57

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-07-2006 09:53:28

To word it differently, I need to know if the frame is unbolted from main case will it slide forward over block and head ? I know the water tube and manifold have to come off but can't really tell if frame will clear even then.

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jd b puller

01-07-2006 07:09:05

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-06-2006 13:58:15

Are you trying to remove the block and head without removing the frame? Or are you trying to remove the frame?

The engine comes out of there with ease. Follow the advice about the plywood and the radiator if you plan on taking the fanshaft out. Don't ask me how I know either...

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B-maniac

01-08-2006 16:52:40

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to jd b puller, 01-07-2006 07:09:05

jd b puller I get your point jd ,I hope you can understand I was only trying to make mine. If that makes me a smart A#%& in your mind then I'm guilty as charged. In my world of auto restoration bussiness leaving an areasuch as between the frame and the block/head area without the same quallity paint as the rest of the tractor is unacceptable. In this case I may have to make a concession.Your'e right ,this might just be overkill on my part,after all it's a tractor and not a show car like I'm used to doing. Thanks for bringing it into perspective for me ,it probably saved me a lot of time and headache.

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Pete/ME

01-07-2006 02:55:10

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-06-2006 13:58:15

You need the JD s.m. It describes how you remove head. A lot of fiddling but doable. If you decide to remove fan shaft/govenor assembly (do it in one piece) cut some 3-4" strips of 1/4" plywood to length and wedge them in front of the fan so you don't bugger the radiator (don't ask how I know to do this).

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pappy

01-06-2006 23:51:01

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-06-2006 13:58:15

Sorry I forgot a line. Nowhere in the book does it mention removing the frame or how to do it. It only mentions the head and block.

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Pappy

01-06-2006 23:45:34

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Re: john deere b frame removal in reply to B-maniac, 01-06-2006 13:58:15

I just checked the I&T Service manual and it indicated the head and block will come out without moving the frame. I have not done it, but they say it can be done.

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